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Re: [tlug] IMEs in Mint?

On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0200, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote:
> On 3 April 2014 19:26, Stephen J. Turnbull <> wrote:
> > Definitely so if options
> > are actually removed rather than simply having defaults changed to
> > match the lowest common denominator.
> So fork it, put the code back. Look, pax, peace. I'm not saying that
> it's something most people would care to do, I'm just saying that if
> you really don't like the decision, the decision need not apply to
> you. There is no "end-user", unless you deliberately aim to be one.

Simple example. In RH based distributions, one could formerly easily remove
NetworkManager, which frequently can be the cause of problems, and hand
edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-whatever.  

In most recent Fedora versions, if one does this, networking won't work on
boot up.  If you use their tool, system-config-network-tui, you can
configure the interface, but somewhere, they've changed some startup script
or another that the system-config-network-tui tool affects, and it's become
a tiny bit more like Windows. 

Now could a good, or even mediocre, coder, find and fix this?  Almost
certainly.  However, it's just one more thing that has now become more
difficult to do.  There is still a fix, but knowing Fedora, it's quite
possible that their developers will soon think, oh, everyone must have a
laptop that uses DHCP, and it will become even more difficult to get
NetworKManager out of the equation. 

So, someone who has used Fedora for years, even if they are a skilled
developer, will have to either switch, take their already limited time to
find another distribution that works--which may not be an option at their
job for whatever reason, or take their time to try to fix it for their own
needs.  Sure, they can do that, but they may have things they'd rather be

That's probably no big deal to someone of your skill, but to an old guy
like myself, who's always tired after work, usually has a list of chores
that my lovely wife needs done, and who can't code, it is a big deal. 

Scott Robbins
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