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- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:07:53 +0900
- From: Chris <chris@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] From an enthusiast TLUG follower
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On 28 Aug 2020, at 13:46, Edward Middleton wrote:
They have had open borders for Japanese Citizens the entire time.
Yes.
Its disingenuous to suggest that not being able to disown your citizens somehow necessitates having open borders.
No, you're missing the point.
Japan can not close borders to returning Japanese citizens without violating international law ("international conventions to which it is a signatory", to be pedantic). It was proposed as an emergency measure but was immediately discarded for that reason. (No, I don't have a cite at hand).
I think most people could accept them closing the borders in the interests of preventing the spread of COVID-19 but that is not what has happened.
They did close the borders. To non-Japanese. Because closing the borders to Japanese violates (again) the right-of-return clause in the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the 1948 Fourth Geneva Convention. For more information, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return
It's not disingenuous to point out that it's illegal to prohibit citizens from returning (so they didn't) but not illegal to prohibit non-citizens from returning (so they did).
This is just a minor issue, though, compared to the rest of the problems with Luppescu's adventure.
-- Chris
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