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- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:12:25 +0900
- From: Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com>
- Subject: Re: work times & accommodation @tokyo, WAS: Re: [tlug] Embedded linux dev wanting to find work in Tokyo.. Seeking advice.
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On 2008-07-21 17:26 +0900 (Mon), jim grisanzio wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> True in a sense, but I don't think you understand Japan or the >> Japanese very well yet; it's not a matter of stupidity, here. > > ... > Fortunately, I'm much smarter now and can rationally and proudly > reject the systems that lead such horrible experiences. Not fully > understanding Japan is a completely separate issue. Actually, that you can imply that Japanese should "proudly reject the systems that lead [to] such horrible experiences" just shows how you don't understand Japan. The implication of doing that here is to face the risk of never making enough money to start a family, get married, or even move out into your own apartment. To "proudly reject" the system means that you can't get a job in most Japanese companies. Even if you manage to get in, you'll be branded as un-cooperative and face the wrath of your peers. Very few people can sustain their co-workers despising them for years on end; I would guess that that's more likely to drive you to death (by stress and maybe suicide) than overwork is. Even if you can handle it, and somehow avoid getting fired, you'll stand no chance of promotion, and will never make enough money to finance all those activities outside of work for which you set aside that time. Your other options are pretty limited. Being an entrepreneur is not likely to work out if your main aim is to spend less time at work, since most entrepreneurs spend more than average time there. Becoming a housewife is not generally an option for men. You might find a job with a foreign company in Japan, but many of those have the same sort of demands as Japanese companies. Moving overseas may be a good bet, if you can figure out how to do it. Japan has no lack of people who do reject the ridiculous work ethic, but I encourage you to look up the "freeters" entry on Wikipedia to see what they're really facing. > Personally, I'm interested finding more efficient ways to work so I can > increase the value of my work while reducing the hours I work. To me this > is basic engineering and project management. Why would you produce a system > any other way? Why would you build an engine that is so inefficient that it > has to work so hard that it eventually kills itself? Learn more about the people side of management, particularly managing non-engineers, and you'll figure it out easily enough. On 2008-07-21 17:40 +0900 (Mon), jim grisanzio wrote: > The Innovator's Dilemma (still scariest book around) demonstrates > clearly that a product can be too good and therefor cause the direct > collapse of a company from competitors whose products are just good > enough and manages miss this consistently. Actually, that rather misses the key point of that very good book. Stephen may correct me on it, but my take was that the products lose not because they're too good, but because they're not good enough. They may exceed the desired specifications in many areas; but they fail in at least one other. cjs -- Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com> +81 90 7737 2974 Mobile sites and software consulting: http://www.starling-software.com
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