Re: [tlug] Using TAR

[roy lo <roylo@example.com>]

pardon my french;
but can you ppl. fucking read???
did I say it won't fit? quote it to me!!
I say it is going to have problem. he is running to low on his partition 
space. 59M that is 92% of his partition, which is a very bad ideal.
and I don't think you need me to explain why that is bad. do you?




Matt Doughty wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 07:28:03PM -0800, roy lo wrote:
> 
>>I know that, but don't forget the fact that directorys like /lib can 
>>grow in size. And he is got /sbin and /boot in / as well (accroding to 
>>his partition style). For argument's sake you can install those "after" 
>>softwares into /usr/bin or /usr/lib, etc. as well. But any reasonable 
>>system admin. won't let himself to be in that kinda of mess (always have 
>>"at least" 20%-30% of free space on a partition.)
>>
> It shouldn't grow, and you are taking out the parts you like to rave,
> about so I will spell it out for you:
> 1. He said classic unix layout. (this makes his statement correct)
> 2. He said scale due to excesses in current practices. (see RH)
> 3. /lib should almost never grow that is why we have /usr/lib etc.
>    and like I said 45M is a RH 7.2 /lib size. 
> 4. /sbin on the same install in 8M, and 6M + 8M + 45M=59M which means
>    it all fits which you suggested it wouldn't.  You are wrong.
> 
> 
>>I'm not trying to jump on Chris, I only try to point out where I think 
>>is incorrect.
>>
>>
>> > that link /lib, and /bin to /usr/lib, and /usr/bin respectively are
>> > not doing the 'right thing'(TM).
>>Wrong, that is the style that most unix systems use. Take a look at any 
>>solaris box and you will see that.
>>
>>

Most "companies" use System V based Unix. and I agress that the "right 
thing" != "standard pratice". so you are right about that part.
But there is a reason for that kinda of method. ie. massive dir. size or 
development machines. (for example /lib is a separe hotswap disk and we 
would replace them with the one that is shipped from Taiwan once so often)




> Yeah, suddenly solaris is most systems? I know most BSD based systems
> don't do it so that is a whole lot of boxen right there that contradict
> your most unix systems, and I don't really care what unixes today do or
> don't do it the point remains it is not a good practice. You should be
> able to get up and running with only / mounted that method of mounting 
> makes that impossible.  I find your inability to read what people say
> the most annoying part of this whole affair.  You assume firstly that
> solaris is most systems, and then assume that my statement that it is
> a poor practice is somehow the same as saying solaris doesn't do it. 
> The fact is alot of "standard practices" are not good practices(TM), and
> this is just one of them.
> <BIG SNIP>
> --Matt
> 
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