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Re: [tlug] [OT] email client tips?
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 12:42:22 +0900
- From: Travis Cardwell <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] [OT] email client tips?
- References: <53591B63.email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <CAKXLc7fOPB=MB3qkLJBowfEhb2syN_Zc05n1TJjfwwYsw=Vmuw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2014年04月25日 10:49, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote:Hmm... that sounds like setting a timebomb (or few)... Almost every week I have to deal with incident response on a client Web server involving PHP. Probably 1/3 of the cases is an attempt to do what you describe - I call it full local packaging. The problem is that once deployed such setups are hard to upgrade and as such tend to gather vulnerabilities (i.e. already present vulnerabilities are published and exploited).That is a very good point.One random idea that I had but have yet to fully explore, is to create a "gateway application" for authentication. Using Nginx as a reverse-proxy, my web server is implemented in Haskell, in which I can implement it. The idea is to provide a secure interface for authentication. Only when a user authenticates successfully are they given access to internal services that are not fully trusted (PHP/Ruby apps) by adjusting firewall rules. It is sort of like a web-interface alternative to port-knocking.What do you think of such an idea?I also refuse to install PHP and Ruby on my servers, for slightly different reason (the opposite?): I want to have central view of the installed software. I am using Gentoo with default portage package manager and I often use Perl for various tasks. Also most of Gentoo depends on Python, so that is (unfortunately) hard-bundled. Having to deal with another (few) package/module management systems (in addition to portage and g-cpan) is just too much frustration.I do not use a number of development utilities for this very reason: the Ruby package manager is a significant dependency! I have even resorted to installing Node.js in order to avoid it!/me ducksI have tried several times to get off-the-beaten-path and stop using gmail (and as hacker/geek/alpinist I do LOVE off-course). I am used to Thunderbird from the time it was Netscape and even have some contributions to it. These days I sue it for work with my bigger client (independent consultant). I dislike the editor wrapping, here are some related bugs that I commented/filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109350 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84320 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114707 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168420 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169691 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186732 ... probably there are more, but no result so far and every time I tried to look at the code I gave up after an hour being unable to understand where to look for....Thank you for sharing that!So I use gmail for most other things. And now that I got Nexus 7 2013 (WiFi) and last month another LTE, I am even more bound to gmail because of the gmail app.I am in the same situation with my family email. My wife is willing to change if/when I find a decent alternative. I often hear of alternative Android email apps, but I have yet to try them and worry about the likely lack of a good Japanese localization. I also need to find a replacement calendar, as we use the GMail calendar constantly.Cheers, Travis
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