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- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:23:34 +0900
- From: "Guillaume Proux" <gproux@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] "strange antipathy towards Unicode" . . . . . . . . (was: Re: Learn a Variety of Languages)
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People criticizing the Han unification might have a point (do they?) but for most applications this is a non-issue.
The chinese character for e.g. "man" will *MEAN* the same in Japanese and (various) Chinese scripts... However yes, they have a different writing... which means a different font. Guess what most document system out there have found out that you just need to specify which language (with tags for example) is used for a document piece to show the correct writing style.
Just for the little story, I used to be part of Symbian (mobile phone OS) i18n expert team and the most "zero-fighter" guy in our office clearly said to me that people refusing Unicode really had no real argument.
cheers,
Guillaume
On 1/16/07, Jim <jep200404@example.com> wrote:Curt Sampson wrote:
> ... Japanese software tends to be worse at language processing > than other systems [because] the Japanese tend to have this > strange antipathy towards Unicode.
Here's toward understanding the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification
which I understand as meaning that there shouldn't be any problem with Japanese _only_ text, even mixing kanji, hiragana, and katakana. My understanding is that the problem occurs when one mixes Chinese characters from different CJK languages in olain text Unicode.
Most folks don't read things with mixed CJK language Chinese characters, so Unicode should not be a problem for most folks.
The problem is for folks who need to mix Chinese characters from multiple CJK languages in a single plain text Unicode document. I guess there would also be a problem supporting multiple CJK languages on a single system, even when each plain text Unicode document is in a single CJK language, because one would have to choose which language to view each document in.
The antipathy might not be by just the Japanese, and it might not be so strange.
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