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Re: [tlug] Linux-compatible Mac laptop?

On Apr 12, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:

On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:50:21PM +0900, Uva Coder wrote:
On 4/11/07, Jonathan Q <> wrote:

Anyone running VMWare on a Mac? If so, do they have this problem solved?

I`m using VMware Fusion (hosted) on a MacBookPro. The problem
persists. However, from what I have been told about VMware ESX (VMware
Infrastructure 3), the problem was solved. Once I receive a copy of
VMware Infrastructure 3 over the next couple of weeks, I`ll confirm.

One downside of Macs, that everyone forgets till it bites them, is their
proprietary hardware problem. For instance, my wife's airport card
seems to not be working. Mac, of course, stopped making this particular
card, it's now only available for $140 dollars here and there with a 90
day guarantee. Is it the airport card? I don't know.

If it were a PC, I could easily boot a Linux CD and see, swap cards,
etc.  Because it's Mac, I have to go to the local Apple
store--fortunately I'm in NYC, so there is one, take a number and wait
45 minutes for them to test it.

That's the reason why everyone in the Mac-community tells one usually that you should get a MAC OS X-compatible WLAN-USB-stick instead of an internal airport card if it's defect. Cheaper, if you've done the right choice you have an external antenna and you can use the funky Kismac-stuff for eh...having a greater choice in "open" networks ;)
And ehâI would ask some friends for lending their airport card for testing itâ create a new account or use the hardware-check-disc which is shipped with every mac, booted from a rescue system or from another Macâ
It's more or less the same as with a non-Apple-machineâ

With a PC, I could buy it (more cheaply) put Linux or BSD on it, and if
there were a similar problem, easily check by swapping readily available

With a laptop the problem stays the same except of RAM (you should take care that you've buy from a shop who knows which RAM an Apple- computer takes w/out any problemsâI had never problems but I never wanted to buy no name-RAM as well) and ehâMini-PCI-cards (usually WLAN - solution explained above).

Macs are great when they work--when they don't, one begins to wonder why

Because you're exchanging graphic cards, processors and motherboards of laptopsâ
Software-related problems are similar solvable to Linux because you have similar logging available

they're so much more popular than MS--at least until Vista, one didn't
need special hardware to run an MS system.

You don't even need special hardware for Vista - only if you want the fancy stuff.
But I have to say: If there would be the possibility to run Mac OS X on a non-Apple laptop I would have a real hard choice between Thinkpads, Samsung and Apple (but I can't find a comparable product out there to my iMac - that form factor and the silence of the machine seems to be a thing only Apple can produce)
I had a real problematic iBook (after 3 combodrives and 4 logicboards in 1.5 years I got a new one) but I know a lot of ppl who had never problems or the problems got solved really fast (or the community could help - I don't know how it is in the US but here in Germany we have a high quality mailing-list with a lot of ppl who know what they are talking about) . And because of the OS and the available software I would never change to anything else again (years of Windows and Linux-experience -- on any machine where I can't run Mac OS X though I use Linux and to be trueâI have there usually more problems with hardware than on Mac. There the vendors create the drivers quite often)


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