Re: [tlug] How to Push Linux! .......................

[Scott Robbins <scottro@example.com>]

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On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 12:00:22PM +0900, Lyle (Hiroshi) Saxon wrote:
> Josh - Okay. I take you point that I shouldn't say what I think about 
> Microsoft, but I have four complaints about your e-mail:
> 
> 1) Re: "Please note that I also grant Steve carte blanche to criticize 
> me for....."
> 
> You give Steve carte blanche to criticize anybody & anything at anytime. 
> Okay - fine. He's a big man, I'm a stupid bozo. I'll leave the 
> criticizing to him and censor any criticism I have about anyone at any 
> time beyond the very mildest of polite hints. Steve can toss in the 
> explosive cannonballs, I'll throw back feathers.

Ok, let's see if we can stop this one before it gets out of hand. 

Lyle, from what I saw, I don't think Josh went overboard.  Also, yes,
Steve has much more leeway than most list members because a mailing list
is a meritocracy and he has powers and abilities far beyond that of
mortal men.  Well, ok, maybe not, but aside from his computer technical
skills, he is a professor of economics.  

He and Josh have a liking and respect for each other, AFAICT, and 
so if he criticizes Josh, yes, Josh will probably accept it.

I think Josh likes you as well, and is perhaps less careful with his
words towards you than he would be with a stranger.  However, looking at
the posts, I don't see anything that I would really consider an attack.  

It didn't even strike me as overly harsh--again, perhaps he said things
because it was you, who he knows ( and likes, AFAICT)
that he would have said more diplomatically if it were a stranger.


[Josh's statement]

> >>"There is a danger in the fact that many of the people who are
> >>passionate about Linux, are really passionate about their opposition to
> >>the status quo... because the question arises - when the status quo
> >>changes, what will bind us together."
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I stand by my paraphrasing, which carries the same meaning as your
> >verbatim quote. Remember the context: you had just said something
> >about how Microsoft must be defeated at any cost, and Mark was saying
> >that OS/FS must be about more than that.
> >  
> >


[your exact quote--sorry, I snipped, but I think this is enough context]

> can to promote it, so I'm sort of a crusading anti-Microsoft person - I 
> really hate Microsoft."
> 
> 
> Mark Shuttleworth: "There is a danger in the fact that many of the 
> people who are passionate about Linux, are really passionate about their 
> opposition to the status quo... because the question arises - when the 
> status quo changes, what will bind us together."
> 
> 

Honestly, I don't think there's enough here to make you angry.  Perhaps
a bit miffed that Josh is more likely to listen to Stephen than to you,
but I think that holds for most of us--err, that REALLY came out wrong,
I ~meant~ that Josh is more likely to listen to Steve than to 99.9
percent of the rest of this list. 


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