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- Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:39:45 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Economics lessons
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>>>>> "Lyle" == Lyle Saxon <Lyle> writes: Lyle> By "overcharge" I meant that they take in considerably more Lyle> money than they need to provide a decent profit for the Lyle> employees of the company. [NB Employees see _nothing_ of the profit, by definition. Profit has nothing to do with feeding employees or their kids; employee compensation is a _cost_.] The profit is the difference between the price in the market and the sum of such costs. You are saying that should be capped at some "decent" level. Why? It's quite possible that the net value extracted by buyers per unit is much higher. Why shouldn't we cap the buyers' value and let the sellers take the rest as profit? The only reason I can see is that people are selfish. The typical person says "I don't want to overcharged by big companies that I buy from, or underpaid by the big company I work for." Howcum when Joe Blow is buying, prices are unfairly high, but when he's selling, they're unfairly low? In your case, maybe there's a principled reason I haven't thought of. But I'm quite sure that the typical person's logic is purely self-interested. Lyle> Excuse me for saying so - but comparing a mega-production of Lyle> identical items that are quite cheap per unit Talking about "mega-production of identical items that are quite cheap per unit" shows that you do not understand what the issues are here at all. You might as well assume there is a single original which costs hundreds of millions of $$$ to produce, which then allows an infinite supply of perfect copies available at zero cost. This does little violence to the economics, and none at all the the ethical issues. The whole question is how to allocate the "first copy" cost. The cost of the copies is irrelevant. Lyle> And... how do you know I didn't overcharge anyone? I Lyle> personally remember each of the used cars I sold and don't Lyle> think I sold any for an unreasonable price, but it troubles Lyle> me that you grant me automatic immunity No, I granted you the usual human dose of hypocrisy. I'm glad to see that I overestimated it, and apologize for that. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.
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