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Re: [Lingo] Re: [tlug] Correct particle to use
- Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:21:18 +0900
- From: "Josh Glover" <email@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [Lingo] Re: [tlug] Correct particle to use
- References: <E1HvBEf-0008Be-OB@hikari.tlug.jp> <466D9D3F.firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <466F4002.email@example.com>
On 13/06/07, Bart Mathias <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
I used to be a professor of Japanese language, until I retired in 1999. What that status tells me is that you really need a *Japanese* professor of Japanese to do the question justice.
Or maybe a Japanese linguist.
I certainly never taught anyone to say, e.g., 日本語の本を読めます, but I don't think it's at all anymore unheard of than the three native speakers someone in this thread queried suggested. It's probably felt to be something on the order treating 本を読む as a compound verb and potentializing it そのまま. "Hon'o yom..." runs trippingly off the tongue.
That is an interesting theory.
Language *does* change, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. ;)
As someone with an interest in linguistics, I am very aware of the difference between prescription and description, and I agree scientifically that the latter is more correct.
But I just cannot accept it in my heart; I'm a grammar Nazi in both English and Japanese. :(
The scariest thing is をほしい. I got 333,000 googits for that just now, and some of the first ten turn out to be coincidence (the noun before the を is the object of a later verb), but the first one is quite suggestive:
ときどき「仕事をほしい」「子どもをほしい」など「を」を聞くことがありま す。連体修飾節では「子どもをほしい女性」のように「を」が現れることもあり ますが、現時点 ...
THAT'S JUST WRONG!!!!
/me cries huge angry tears
-- Cheers, Josh
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