Re: tlug: Redhat 6 and Japanese.

[David Walter <David.Walter@example.com>]

"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "David" == David Walter <David.Walter@example.com> writes:
> 
>     David> Japanese, and/or what can I do to get Xemacs to come up
>     David> successfully?  Any help at this point would be greatly
>     David> appreciated!
> 
> Sigh.  Avoid Red Hat would be a start.  They are definitely on track
> to becoming the Microsoft of Linux, on the flash vs. robustness[1]
> axes if not in size.  

Stephen:

Without meaning to open a can of worms, I am still open to other
distributions besides RH6 at this point. What do you recommend instead
of RH6? Vine and Turbolinux seem to be RH-based so that rules them out,
although they have built in  (limited) Japanese support. I started with
Slakware, but I haven't heard anybody say anything good about slakware
recently, although version 4 has been out for a little while. Is there
anyone out there using Plamo Linux and who can recommend it?

What are people's recommendations for an intermediate linux user who
needs limited Japanese support and minimal fuss?

XEmacs RPMs typically fail on Red Hat because
> they are always changing their libc.  GNU Emacs is tracked a little
> better, but suffers from the same Achilles heel (the executable is
> loaded with data and then "dumped", which means that the data
> structures are quickly loaded from disk byte for byte instead of
> computed slowly at runtime; if the structures change, and in glibc
> they do fairly often, SIGSEGV or SIGBUS is the least you should
> expect; then, of course, the Red Hat developers add glitches of their
> own).
> 
> XEmacs should build pretty well automatically, either from RPM or from
> the FTP distribution.  To build from FTP
> (ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/xemacs-21.1/ IIRC, current is 21.1.6 unless
> 21.1.7 was released last night) you will need the source distribution
> tarball, the SUMO Lisp package tarball, and the Mule Lisp add-ons.
> 
> You should untar the source, read README.Packages, figure out where
> your lisp is going to be installed, put the packages there, and then
> build and install XEmacs.  (Somewhat more complicated than you'd like
> it to be, but we working on that.)

> Good luck.

Thanks for the detailed reply! I'll try building Xemacs the
old-fashioned way and see if I get better results. By the way, what is a
"lisp" and also what does "SUMO" stand for?


David Walter
david.walter@example.com


(Sorry, no cutesy sayings yet. I'm looking into it . . . maybe something
from Mao Ze Dong. . .).
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