Re: tlug: forwarded message from Hajime Saitou

[Steve Dunham <dunham@example.com>]

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com> writes:

>     Chris>   This has caused no end of trouble (the docs clearly state
>     Chris> that "these binaries need glibc-2.0 or better.  If you
>     Chris> don't know what that is, these binaries are not for you."
>     Chris> Unfortunately, users never read docs).

> I do.  I tried upgrading on a machine with NO user data.  When that
> didn't work, I tried backing out.  When that didn't work, I
> reformatted the disk (can't do that if there's user data there :-) and
> installed plain hamm.  But at the time, it didn't include X ...  It
> does now.  Thanks to you (as one of "we") and Hajime for drawing my
> attention to the vast progress made by hamm in recent weeks.  (BTW, it 
> was bloody hard to get dpkg-ftp to download hamm.  But I figured it
> out.  Dunnet experience came in handy ;-)

Sorry about the time delay. I haven't read this mailbox in a while,
but I think I should respond to save others from this hassle.

There are still some problems with dpkg-ftp not installing stuff in
the right order.  If you want to upgrade bo to hamm I highly recommend
you do some stuff by hand, namely the readline and gdbm upgrades.  I'd
suggest that you, with dpkg:

  Upgrade libc5 to the latest in hamm, then install libc6.  (Taking care
  of any dependencies.) This is just to allow us to do the next step.

  Upgrade libreadline, _then_ (i.e afterwards) install libreadlineg. 
  Upgrade libgdbm, then install libgdbmg.

The problem is that packages can get unpacked in the wrong order and
you end up with a non-functional bash or perl, which will break the
installation process. 

If you use ftp install, a good method is to have it download the
packages, but don't say yes when it asks if it can install them;
instead go to /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/... and install the ones you
need by hand, then go back and say yes.


I believe there is a document somewhere that better explains this, but
basically, once you get readline upgraded everything should go
smoothly.  (Not sure if the gdbm stuff is even necessary.)


Steve
dunham@example.com


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