Re: [tlug] GW projects

[Raymond Wan <rwan.kyoto@example.com>]

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:35 PM Curt J. Sampson <cjs@example.com> wrote:
> On 2020-05-03 20:41 +0800 (Sun), Raymond Wan wrote:
> > I think a more interesting point is their effectiveness when the
> > supply is limited.
> Overall, given a limited supply of masks, we're probably much better
> off with extensive mask re-use than with trying to use them "properly."


That's true -- I won't publicly admit how long one of my masks is lasting.  :-P

But that was also for practical reasons.  Many people here spend hours
per day scouring Facebook for stores (and some less scrupulous
establishments) that were selling masks.  I don't think I have that
many hours in a day.  Many people would run to a line-up only to miss
out on the few they had for sale.  Things are better now.


> On 2020-05-03 14:29 -0400 (Sun), Scott Robbins wrote:
> > Well, here in the US, the country that elected Trump, people are
> > responding as he would, threatening store employees who ask that
> > they wear masks.
> Right. If that's weird to you, you don't properly understand Freedom.
>
> It works like this:
> 1. When I'm on your premises, you cannot make me wear a mask, leave
>    behind my firearm, or do anything else that limits my Freedom.
> 2. When you come on to my premises, I am allowed to shoot you for any
>    reason because disallowing this would limit my Freedom.
>
> Remember, Freedom is all about me, not about you. Get with the
> American programme!

:-(

And just yesterday, I read on BBC that a security guard in Michigan
was shot (and killed) for asking someone to wear a mask [1].  On the
same day, CNN mentioned that a US park ranger was pushed into the
water while asking people to social distance themselves [2].

Of course, it's not about masks.  It's quite reasonable for an
establishment to ask you to wear a suit / dress at their fancy
restaurant.  Or to be quiet in a cinema or a library.  And it isn't
about guns...surely if the security guard was beaten up or stabbed, it
would be equally wrong.

It's just all quite disturbing to see where freedom could lead.  Of
course, this was going on long before the pandemic and not just the
USA.

Ray

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52540266
[2] https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/social-distancing-ranger-pushing-lake-covid-19-trnd/index.html