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- Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:59:53 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Looking for Summer Internship in Japan
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Benjamin Kowarsch writes: > You are assuming I am looking for dev work through headhunters. I made no such assumption. I don't know (and actually don't care) how *you* search for work. I'm telling you what I can easily observe around me: a lot of public recruiting based on "drone qualifications", and successful job search based on "true skills" and personal networks. > Nobody looks at the true skillset, no matter how you present it Sorry, you're wrong. In my personal experience, it's about 90% of potential employers who look at true skillset. I'm sure I've had more than my share of good luck, but I'm also sure it's not close to nobody in the "real world". In both the cases I mentioned, both my would-be boss and his boss were looking at important subsets of the true skillset. The boss was looking to offload certain aspects of catherding on me, and I had significant relevant skills and experience. The boss's boss was looking at departmental work culture and my experience, which was limited to a couple of decades of professoring, and worried that (a) I'd need a lot of herding myself, and (b) that my lack of coding experience and productivity would make it very difficult for me to successfully influence coding practices "in the trenches". I would have been happy to work for those people, but the jobs on offer looked like more -- and different -- work than I wanted to do. It didn't work out, but nobody was focused on irrelevant formal qualifications (such as my PhD in Economics). Another way to put it is "don't search for a good job, search for a good boss". > When I have been introduced somewhere it was typically through > somebody I know who know somebody or knew somebody who knew > somebody. It makes little difference. Yes, and that implies that finding good work is mainly a function of one's ability to extend one's network. > The subject matter idiots have it. Well, have it your way. Somebody else will get the jobs that you won't get offered! Despite being far more qualified for them than the successful candidate in many cases .... ;-)
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