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- Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:54:42 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: [tlug] GSoC participation (was: Looking for Summer Internship in Japan)
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Attila Kinali writes: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:30:58 +0900 > "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com> wrote: > > > I'm certainly distressed at the extremely low > > level of Japanese participation in GSoC. Compare India: Indian > > students surpassed the American contingent in 2014, and they're on > > track to increase their lead this year from what I hear -- > > applications open officially later today so that's just a guess. > > There are more reasons for that than just the "lack of programmer". > >From what i know from a couple of OSS projects and GSoC participants > i have talked to, the main reason why GSoC is so popular in India is > due to its pay. I have been told that it can amount to of what is > needed for two years of education. > Given the cost of higher education in Japan and the US, the GSoC > payment is infinitesimal. The number I've heard from the students accepted by Mailman and Systers is one year, including books and living expenses. For a student at The Ohio State University (Ohio resident, main campus), it's about one academic quarter (tuition, room, board, books). For a student at the University of Tsukuba, it's about a semester. Big difference, yes, order of magnitude difference, no, and it definitely is not infinitesimal. What's more important is the alternative employment. In India, I doubt there is much (except working for Daddy) that pays USD10/hr, although a lot of students seem to have other internships with companies like Intel and Google, so I guess there's some. In the U.S. that's minimum wage ("flip bits, not burgers"), and in Japan it's about 30% (given current exchange rate) higher than working at 7-11. > would explain quite a lot of the different numbers. Not really. The problem is not that India has overtaken Japan, it's that Japan isn't even on the map.
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