Re: [tlug] [OT] plonk [Re: Classes]

[Bruno Raoult <braoult@example.com>]

Hi all,

Long time I did not participate to this list, as I had 2 difficult moves to London then France :-)
But this thread forces me to react...

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Andrew Holway <andrew.holway@example.com> wrote:

[...]
>  > I will however top post
> Welcome to the moderation queue!  I hope that doesn't discourage you
> from continuing to participate.
Go fuck yourself!

euh?? *You* may ask to change the rules, I am sure. But surely you need this group to agree!
You cannot make rules alone: If top posting is accepted here, why not? You should ask the
question instead of being rude... Meantime, following the current rules is the only option.

>  > In some respects I do agree with previous comments about elitism. Most
>  > Lugs and linux people in general are somewhat horrific in this respect
>  > and are extremely cliquey towards noobs.
>
> I've never noticed that LUGs or Linux people are elitist.  In fact,
> they're very democratic: "If *I* could do it, so can *you*."[1]

Hum. To be seen... Maybe Andrew wanted to say "snob" instead of "elitist"?

 

> What LUGs/Linux/OSS folks are intolerant of is laziness (even when
> expressed as "I don't have time to learn anything"), know-nothing-ism,
> and irresponsibility.

Out of topic, no?

> As for cliquiness towards n00bs, I don't really feel sorry for
> people who think there's a justification for top-posting on a list
> where top-posting is forbidden.

It is forbidden by the group. Obviously, rules could change if a majority
goes for it. But surely it cannot be decided from 1 or 2 people...

As this is not the first time that this top-posting subject comes in, why not
asking the whole group what should be the rule? After all, I believe that today
95% of people use top-posting in the world, no?

> Footnotes:

> [2]  The clause "is forbidden" is necessary here.  I think that the
> interlinear, well-trimmed style is better in general despite the
> additional effort required.  Nevertheless, see
> http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/Teach/IntroSES/socsys-2.html.

There are some flaws there... Top posting has some advantages too:
You may find all information in one email. When people trim email,
which is *necessary* when you don't top-post, you just miss the whole subject,
and you have to find older emails to understand everything...

Well, this is not a clear subject, is it?

If there is a vote in this list, please consider I don't care (white vote): I will follow
the rule, whatever it is...

Bruno.

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