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- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:49:41 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephenjturnbull@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Am I the last to know?
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On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Scott Robbins <scottro@example.com> wrote: > Desktops are changed, though > both Fedora and Ubuntu tend to tie system functions to a particular > desktop--e.g., a Fedora install of openbox brings in all sorts of Gnome > garbage. This is in theory a good thing (reusable software components). The problem is that people go "oh, that feature would be nice" and just "#include <feature.h>" rather than making it an configure option. (Maybe a little more fair would be to say that often these feature dependencies cascade over a network of dependencies, and it's just too complex to try to compute a minimal feature set to support, say, transparent windows or dbus.) The problem is that with the number of features growing exponentially and the number of CPU seconds per second that are actually usable by these programs growing linearly (at best), you end up with bloat perceivable as slowness. (Program bloat as a space constraint isn't really a problem at the OS level any more, not with 1TB disks available for $75 or so. Maybe for heavy gamers, but I don't consider games part of the OS. :-) > So, let's focus on the desktop while wireless and printing are still far > more problematic than it should be. Indeed. Except on Mac, which I suppose is using proprietary drivers as a crutch, CUPS really sucks. I don't have a lot of problems with wireless (except remembering the 26-hex-digit randomly-generated password for my WLAN that only gets used when I install new hardware about once every 6 months). But I don't think you can blame Ubuntu or GNOME for that. AFAICT, the real problem is that Epson and Canon release only crippleware for FLOSS OSes. (Yes, I've used the source, Luke, and even a quick look made me puke. Magic numbers everywhere, no docs, don't check status returns or assert non-NULL pointers, I could go on but this is the Disney Channel and children might be watching, right?) HP's drivers, OTOH, have always worked fine for me, and 3rd-party drivers for HP (hello, Ghostscript!) usually work pretty well, too. Even upgrades of HPLIP don't break my system and I get a high quality test page without tweaks. But who (besides the Japanese taxpayer) can afford HP gear with the features that a 2-man-en Epson gives you? > The fact that Mr. Shuttleworth even has to waste time defending Ubuntu > is one reason why this won't be the year of the Linux desktop either. Desktop is hard work (aka "requires paid developers"), and even Monsieur Shuttleworth can't afford to pay enough to match the investments that took Apple and Microsoft 30 years (ie, counting from the run-up to the wonderful halftime ad of SuperBowl XVIII) to amass. True, copying is possible, but it may not be legal, and anyway I'm sure Mark has as much pride as the next guy! ;-)
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