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- Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:01:33 +0900
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JC Helary writes: > Ah! So it's unions that keep unskilled workers to find good jobs ? See Godwin's post; the mechanisms are well-known, and not hard to understand. > The issue is not unions, as far as unemployment in France (I don't > know for Spain) is concerned. The problem is education/(lack of) > vocational training policies. Training for what, though? I don't care if it's Japan, France, or the U.S., the politicians want industry to make things. "Monozukuri" is historically where the high-paying jobs for Joe Average have been. But that's spitting into the wind, because there are *2 billion* people in India and China alone who are capable of and happy to do the jobs involved in making things, and take a Frenchman's *daily* pay as a *month*'s salary. I guess you don't consider "those silly Indians'" (your words!) happiness to be anything that can be compared to a Frenchman's, though. But realistically, the action in the OECD countries is in *services*, especially intangibles (finance, education, IT, ...). Sure, they can learn to cut hair (as an example of a personal service), but I look around me and I see "Cut 1000 yen" signs on *every* shop's door. The shop I go to can move two customers, at most three in an hour. They have to pay rent, utilities, part-time reji-kakari, on $2500/hour, or 5,000,000/year? Uh-uh, that is not a living wage, let alone a luxurious lifestyle to compete with the average UAW member. Worse, those 1000 yen haircuts pretty clearly mean that they're lucky to get *one* customer per hour. This sucks, but I'm used to getting a haircut once a quarter ... I might up that to once of month for the good of my fellow man. :-/ No, retraining as barbers and hairdressers is not going to save the Japanese unemployed. Do you think it will work in France? And what will the hairdressers' union have to say about that? So, about those "intangible services" like IT. Do you really think *your* work could be done by an ex-autoworker after 3 month's "vocational training"? Seems unlikely to me. And (at least in Japan, in Kyoto in 1994) there already is good vo-tech retraining available. My wife got trained in CAD (AutoCAD, Omron's internal CAD, etc) after an illustrious career (terminated by a month in Europe to exhaust her savings ;-) in the Hankyu Dept Store in Umeda, and did pretty darn well for herself. But she got pretty worn out in that relatively high tech job in CAD services (that's probably why she married me :-). Her acquaintances who took those courses with her were *way* less lucky though. Only half *ever* got jobs in CAD, and only my wife stuck with the job more than 3 months. (Who knows if that's representative, but I suspect it's pretty typical in Japan.) Can OECD economies function only on services? I dunno, but if we're going to retrain people, we can't aim them at the thing-making industries anymore. Not unless we're willing to accept rapidly increasing income inequality as those workers are forced to compete with the orders of magnitude cheaper "makers of things" in emerging markets, while the workers in the financial and technical services continue to have their salaries powered by the growing world economy. Not even here in Japan, much less so in Europe and the U.S.
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