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- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:22:36 -0400
- From: Jim <jep200404@example.com>
- Subject: [tlug] USB Reconfiguration
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This is just background information on some of the complexities of USB devices. It doesn't help (or hurt) Dave sync his PDA. Godwin wrote: > [...] Jim [...] wrote: > > > Some USB devices have the ability to behave as one of > > several devices. There is the possibility that the > > disappearing and reappearing is caused by the USB > > device changing its identity to behave as a different > > device. > > That sounds quite plausible Yup. Without further information, that's about all that we can say. > yet I wonder what the point of changing identities is. It varies for the device concerned. For example, for a pointing device, only a crude mouse mode is supported at boot time. So to be able to use at boot time, a pointing device that can output absolute coordinates, it must behave as (and identify itself as) a particular kind of simple mouse with relative coordinates for use during boot time (such as to use while changing BIOS settings). The device would necessarily change its configuration later on to indicate absolute coordinates. To make them cheap, some USB devices use RAM instead of non-volatile memory (such as flash) for the program. They initially know just enough to identify themselves as the stupid device they are and accept commands from the host for the host to download the software into the USB device. After the program is downloaded, the USB device reboots, after which it indentifies itself as the smart device that it now is. I have a camera that has two USB modes that I can select in its configuration menus: mass storage device for access to images as files on MS-DOS partition "Windows" mode for "web cam" operation. Those two modes even have different device IDs. It's not an issue of the host merely choosing amongst multiple configurations offered by the USB device in configuration descriptors. So above are three examples of why devices change their configuration. Those examples do not imply that the PDA changes it configuration. --------------------------------------------------------- It is _only_ a possibility that the disappearing and reappearing is caused by the USB device changing its identity to behave as a different device. There are other plenty of other possible reasons for the disappearing/reappearing behavior. Perusing the output of while true; do lsusb >>lsusb.stdout; sleep 1; done would yield clues as to whether the device is being completely redefined. It would not indicate whether or not the host is merely selecting one of several configuration descriptors. In any of those cases, it doesn't help (or hurt) Dave sync his PDA. This is just background information on how USB devices work.
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