Re: [tlug] More SCIM: European lang input?

["Birkir A. Barkarson" <birkirb@example.com>]

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> If you want your keyboard to generate the Extended Latin characters
> directly, you're going to need to switch the keyboard to a layout that
> supports them.  Japanese layouts are not going to do that---they're
> going to be designed for generating kana---and I don't see why you
> would expect them to do so.
>
> Conceptually, you should be able to tell XKBD that you have a Japanese
> set of keycodes, and that you want the Level 3 keysyms generated to be
> drawn from the Latin set just by including a couple of files in a
> keyboard definition.  The reason you can't do that is that nobody has
> bothered to factor the kana out of the Japanese keysym definition
> file.  If you've done something that, why don't you just submit it to X.org?

My problem with using the system was basically that there are to many 
steps, switch from Japanese->Icelandic means changing layout to Japanese 
and switching scim-anthy on.  (i.e. the fact that I have to manage two 
systems to handle a single function).

But you are right, in order to get the system to work I had to remove 
the kana definition from the Japanese file (I am relatively new to Linux 
and Xorg, but the kana definition seemed to get in the way of switching 
between Japanese layout and Icelandic). Then I needed to modify the 
Icelandic layout to map some missing keys from the Icelandic layout to 
the 106key Japanese one.  I couldn't exclude that someone else might 
need the kana input so I felt it would be to bold to demand it's removal 
and I wasn't sure what caused the kana input in the Japanese layout file 
to not work correctly with other keyboards to submit a fix.

My ideal situation is to use japanese layout for English/Romaji and 
scim-anthy for kana/kanji input, and then switch to Icelandic for 
Icelandic typing.  In windows this was a one stroke operation, and the 
system is integrated, that is if I switch to Icelandic layout the input 
method editor goes away.  On the up side, with Xorg I could edit the 
keyboard to map the missing keys (like the one between Z and SHIFT) to 
other unused keys.  This I couldn't do on Windows and is yet another 
reason why I am happy to be here :)

BAB