Re: scim/Arch oddness (was Re: [tlug] Japanese page has been revised)

[Scott Robbins <scottro@example.com>]

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On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 08:44:51PM -0600, Matt Gushee wrote:
> Scott Robbins wrote:
> 
> >At any rate, if the pacman packages don't work, just get the three
> >source ones that I list there, and install them.  It works perfectly.
> 
> Except that, in my curmudgeonly way, I insist on installing all non-distro 
> packages under /opt/<package> ;-) So ./configure failed for scim-anthy ... 
> claimed it couldn't find anthy/anthy.h, no matter how hard I tried to tell it.

I believe you said in an earlier post that you are stubborn.  I admit
that made me snicker when I read it.  Yes, it does seem choosy about
that, I'm putting everything in /usr/bin, just following the path of
least resistance. 


> 
> But then I gave the Arch binaries another try, and noticed something 
> interesting:
> 
>   1) $ scim -d  *appears* to fail. Doesn't seem to do anything from
>      .xinitrc (actually .Xclients, but that's more-or-less the same).
>      So then I try it in an RXvt, and it prints an error message saying
> 
>        Failed to load x11 FrontEnd module.
>        Failed to launch SCIM.
> 
>   2) But if I subsequently launch a GTK app from the same terminal window
>      (does it have to be the same one? not sure yet), a SCIM widget
>      appears in the corner of the screen, and Japanese input is available
>      for that app.
> 
> Weird, huh?


However, I didn't get it working with very many apps--actually, I got
the error message you mention--sigh, let me look for the bug Damir
posted, hold on.

http://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?do=details&id=3069

Yes, did I mention that if one does the socket thingie, it does start?
At that point I got it working with Abiword, but I think that was about
it. 


> It kind of looks as if you need to have some GTK/Gnome stuff running on your 
> desktop (with LANG set to ja_JP.*, maybe?) for SCIM to start up. I run a really 
> minimal desktop (windowlab, nice wallpaper, that's about it--no G-anything, 
> until I want to actually use a GTK program).
> 

Yes, today, after getting more and more irked about it not working in
Vector but working in Slack and ZenWalk, I made a list of packages
installed in ZenWalk but not vector--there were several gnome ones. 


HOWEVER--on a relatively minimal Arch install, the downloaded packages
(if you're not silly enough to try to get them into /opt--I've never
liked /opt, I guess that's the BSD-er in me)  :) work in any program.


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