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Re: [tlug] Japanese-language on SuSE




On 木曜日, 5 12, 2005, at 01:06 PM, Lyle (Hiroshi) Saxon wrote:

Joseph Essertier wrote:

I've had similarly good experiences with installing OS 10 in Japanese
on the Mac and selecting English afterwards. Going the other
way--installing in English--never worked for me. The way i have it set
up now, it's very easy to switch back to Japanese when necessary, and
Japanese file names remain in Japanese orthography even when the menus
are all in English, which is great.


In trying it out today, I should warn you that while all the KDE
(desktop) stuff, menus, etc. switches very easily and quickly over to
English from Japanese (and Japanese can be input from either position by
switching text entry back and forth with Ctrl+Space), OpenOffice,
FireFox & Mozilla are Japanese.

Okay. Thanks for letting me know. It would be nice to have help screens in English in OO, but that's okay. I can just connect to the internet for English help.

Mozilla at least can be switched over to
English - folder by folder (the InBox folder, the Send folder, etc.),
but I'm not sure about FireFox and I'm pretty sure you can't switch
OpenOffice over - but then you can just download the English version and
install that.

You don't think that installing two different versions of OO on the same partition would be a problem, then?
Doing that with Word on the Mac is definitely a problem. I know because i've tried it.

Same with Mozilla and FireFox, but using the initial
versions makes updating easier (FireFox is part of the default package
install, but I had to select Mozilla).

By now i've read many of the past posts in the TLUG archives relating
to SuSE, and with all the trouble that people have had with previous
versions of SuSE, i will not be surprised if the installation does not
go smoothly, but i'm willing to experiment a little, and as long as i
am able to type in Japanese relatively efficiently in a word
processing application, i'll be satisfied.


In that case, as long as you install SuSE 9.3 in Japanese, I think
you'll have no problems with Japanese text input.

Cool!
At first i was going to install Ubuntu in Japanese on the G3, but
aborted that installation and installed on the G4 in English. The
Japanese during the initial stages of the installation process on the
G3 was of a low quality, i'm afraid. This is not a criticism of the
producers of Ubuntu. It seems like they have created a wonderful
distribution. But perhaps they have had trouble getting good
translators to work for free on their project? I don't know. They will
have to raise the quality of their translation, i think, though, if
they're going to attract Japanese users.


I'm not sure the Japanese of the install steps is so great either, but
get yourself through that and I think you'll like the way it works on
the other side of the tunnel!

Okay. I see.
By the way, i'm still trying to decide what used, home
desktop--probably Dell--to buy. Is there a quick and easy way to find
out what machines SuSE runs well on? I could look at earlier posts to
see what machines Lyle successfully installed SuSE on and check SuSE
user forums on the internet i guess, but what i'd really like to have
is a list that i can print out and take with me to Akihabara, to help
guide my purchase.


I think anything not really really squeaky new and just coming off the
assembly line should work okay for Dell desktops (but I'm not sure!). I
did have some trouble with 9.1 in a slightly newer machine than the
older ones I'm using in that - if you tried to install it in Japanese,
it couldn't display the Japanese text of the install steps, and so the
only way to install it was in English. I would think that wouldn't be a
problem with 9.3, which should have better hardware support. That said,
if you do find a list, I'd like to see it too!

Okay. Thanks.
Joe

Lyle



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