[tlug] Re: Mozilla - comment and questions

[Mike Fabian <mfabian@example.com>]

Shimpei Yamashita <shimpei@example.com> writes:

> On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:29:46PM +0900,
> Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
>> >>>>> "Jim" == Jim Breen <jwb@example.com> writes:
>> 
>>     Jim> How do TLUGers feels about Mozilla, and the state it has
>>     Jim> reached with 1.0?
>> 
>> It's usable.  I guess I'm starting to trust it, but it crashes more
>> often than I'd like.
>
> Is there a decent not-text-only browser for any platform that doesn't
> crash more often than you'd like [1]? And please don't say "w3-mode";
> it's butt slow and I don't like losing control of my text editor while
> it's "waiting for replies from www.tlug.gr.jp..."

Do you know emacs-w3m?:

    http://emacs-w3m.namazu.org/

It's reasonably fast, much faster than w3.el and also works in
(X)Emacs. It is my favorite browser currently.

I sometimes use Mozilla as well, but for especially for webinterfaces
where I have to fillout a lot of forms, I find emacs-w3m is much more
convenient, because I can use my favorite editor for the forms and use
all the input methods XEmacs offers[1].

emacs-w3m can display image as well, although I usually switch
it off to make loading faster:

    (setq w3m-display-inline-image nil)

and with Mule-UCS

    (setq w3m-use-mule-ucs t)

it supports UTF-8 even when using a w3m which doesn't, i.e. although
you can use w3m-m17n or w3mmee to get UTF-8 support, you don't have
to, the 'regular' w3m will already do.


Footnotes:

[1] In Mozilla, the input of German is painful for me because I use US
keyboard mapping which has no German umlauts.  Compose doesn't work
either because I run Mozilla in a Japanese locale to have kinput2
available. Therefore, when I want to input German into Mozilla, I have
no other way but switch to a German keyboard layout using 'setxkbmap de'.
But I'm not used to the German layout at all, therefore this is
very annoying. In XEmacs I can easily input both German and Japanese
with the US keyboard layout.

-- 
Mike Fabian   <mfabian@example.com>   http://www.suse.de/~mfabian
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