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- Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:20:25 +0900 (JST)
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>>>>> "Matt" == Matt Gushee <mgushee@example.com> writes: Matt> <rant> <img src="snicker.mp3" amplification = 16> Matt> Hey, how's this for a radical idea? Just say no to Matt> RedBloat's planned obsolescence. It's not RedHat, this time, it's the upstream vendor. I'll give an example shortly. The bad guys in this one are probably the Debian-JP folks. If it's not them, it's Ulrich. Matt> and one of the "selling" points of Linux was freedom from Matt> forced upgrades. Whatever happened to that?? <tongue-in-cheek> Those who have already caught a Windose are moving into the Linux world. I don't see any reason why we true believers shouldn't get rich off those suckers who think of a computer as a household appliance that should be require as much sophistication as a toaster of its users, we'll charge less than Bill would have. Not to mention more often (make it up on volume) ;-) </tongue-in-cheek> Matt> </rant> Matt> ... as I get close to switching to Debian ... Hate to tell you this, Matt, but XEmacs broke _twice_ as I upgraded my Debian system from glibc 2.1.2pre3 to 2.1.2pre7 to 2.1.2pre9 to 2.1.2pre12 to 2.1.2. That's life with an unstable distribution, of course, and rebuilding XEmacs fixed it every time so far. Point is, it's hard to refuse a glibc upgrade, because with Uli breaking binary compatibility in every release, _something_ will break. But there really is good stuff in the new glibcs, and some of the neat new apps won't work without it. If you don't like that, you can always go fork yourself ;-) you'd be in good company: XEmacs, egcs, all them YAWMs, and opensource.org itself. If you're willing to stick with the stable release, you should be OK with Debian. But it costs you a lot of apps. And as for bloat ... Debian is up over 4000 packages now .... -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ What are those two straight lines for? "Free software rules." ------------------------------------------------------------------- Next Technical Meeting: October 9 (Sat), 13:30 place: Temple Univ. * Linux Internationalisation Initiative (Li18nux) speaker: Akio Kido * Japanese TrueType Fonts speaker: Adrian Havill Next Technical Meeting: November 13 (Sat), 13:30 place: Temple Univ. * Network Security speaker: Steve Baur Next Nomikai: December 17 (Fri), 19:00 Tengu TokyoEkiMae 03-3275-3691 ------------------------------------------------------------------- more info: http://www.tlug.gr.jp Sponsor: Global Online Japan
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