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- Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:03:43 +0900 (JST)
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Well, we've got Karl-Max using whitespace to make his text readable ... >>>>> "Karl-Max" == Karl-Max Wagner <karlmax@example.com> writes: >> of work. And then there are more problems where we don't know ^^^^ >> any useful parallel algorithm than problems where such Karl-Max> Right. But they are in the minority. ~~~~~ ^^^^^^^^ ... now maybe we can get him to read what he's responding to? I am not a specialist, but I do read about this for philosophical interest (and because as soon as we have a good technical analysis of abstract distributed processing I plan to apply it to microeconomic theory), and it seems to me that I've read Manuel's statement (relatively few problems are parallelizable) many times, and I've never seen it denied---until Karl-Max just did so. It seems to me that our choice of problems may be biased by our much better understanding of sequential algorithms. It is clear from my (best characterized as "abortive", if not "abortions") attempts to apply automata theory to economics that societies and economies choose problems that can be solved in parallel (that's why the market economy works better than any other) and end up with "efficient" solutions (no single processor can achieve a better processor-local solution without lowering some other processor's solution) rather than "global maxima" (inasmuch as the latter requires lots of expensive communication). But I don't think this is universally applicable. >> I don't think, there will be ubiquitous parallel computing >> without a paradigm shift in programming languages. Please Karl-Max> Let's say: you need the same paradigm like a hardware Karl-Max> description language. Raaaaight. Not! I mean, I think that's inappropriate. What we know neural networks (and similar) to be good at are excellent approximate solutions to pattern recognition problems, "trainability," and the like. To apply parallel hardware discription languages to arbitrary problems will require the willingness to accept approximate answers from our machines. Uh-uh. People are cheaper and more flexible. What we want from our machines is better reliability than people can give you. We know very little about getting exact solutions to arbitrary problems based on parallel computation. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +1 (298) 53-5091 -------------------------------------------------------------- Next Nomikai: 18 September, 19:30 Tengu TokyoEkiMae 03-3275-3691 Next Meeting: 10 October, Tokyo Station Yaesu central gate 12:30 -------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsor: PHT, makers of TurboLinux http://www.pht.co.jp
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