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- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>
- Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 19:48:41 +0900
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-------------------------------------------------------- tlug note from "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com> -------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> "Dennis" == Dennis McMurchy <denismcm@example.com> writes: Dennis> A while back I reported a new problem with the sendmail Dennis> MTA on my system. After long faithful service it had Dennis> developed the nasty habit of sometimes just getting stuck Dennis> with a open connection to another mailserver. Dennis> But it would just remain stuck there for unacceptably long Dennis> periods. This seemed to happen mostly with ac.jp domains, Dennis> but not exclusively. Probably what is happening, then, is that the MTA on the other end is timing out and not telling you about it. Presumably you could set your sendmail timeouts shorter. (But don't, see below.) Communication between the ac.jp domain and the rest of Japan is unacceptably slow, period. The main nerve center in Tokyo seems to be engineered about as well as the Shuto expressway; ie, it bears a strong resemblance to a gangrenous cancer, but none at all to MAE East or West. (I could be wrong, and this may be only a problem for SINET, but I suspect it's more widespread, since Craig's FTP host of choice is KDD, not SPIN or IIJ or whatever. KDD is on IMNet==Inter-Ministry Research Information Exchange Network, which is the Japanese equivalent of the original ARPAnet, I believe---it has good connections to everything, anyway.) There's no excuse for this, because for downloads I often get equally good performance from remote hosts in Kyoto, Osaka or Sendai, and our local Sun workstation (which is admittedly *very* heavily loaded), as long as the remote host is an ac.jp host. The fumbles in Tokyo seem to be inter-origanizational coordination problems. Dennis> Finally one of the engineers at gol.com suggested Dennis> defining a relay host (e.g. relay.gol.com), because my [ snip ] Dennis> I haven't tested it a lot, but the piece that was stuck Dennis> in the mail queue earlier has now gone out without any Dennis> fuss. This is a *good* idea, unless you have a strong reason (eg, you are doing obnoxious bulk mail via promiscuous relays) to conceal your domain of origin, or you distrust your relay host (I don't relay things because shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp goes down a lot more than turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp does :-( ), or you're always in a tearing hurry to get things delivered (relay hosts tend to be high volume, so they can get high efficiencies by batching transmissions to the same host together every hour or few hours). The advantages: (1) Minimize transmission time. relay.gol.com is going to be the fastest host you can connect to, no? (2) No waits for retries of unavailable hosts, or retransmissions of fumbled connections. (3) The relay host will be optimized for mail, and may in fact know better routes for the mail than your machine does. (On the Internet, minimum distance is not always minimum hops.) (4) GOL knows mail better than you do. If there are problems, they'll take care of it. (If either of those isn't true, find a new provider---and let me know, I'm a customer too!) So let them.... There may be other advantages too. Steve -- Stephen J. Turnbull Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Yaseppochi-Gumi University of Tsukuba http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/ Tel: +81 (298) 53-5091; Fax: 55-3849 turnbull@example.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- a word from the sponsor will appear below ----------------------------------------------------------------- The TLUG mailing list is proudly sponsored by TWICS - Japan's First Public-Access Internet System. Now offering 20,000 yen/year flat rate Internet access with no time charges. Full line of corporate Internet and intranet products are available. info@example.com Tel: 03-3351-5977 Fax: 03-3353-6096
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