Re: Re[2]: Am I unreasonable?

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>]

I'm replying to the list because my recomended solution applies to
anywhere, not just Tsukuba, and particular applies to people
traveling.

>>>>> "Craig" == Craig Olinsky <Craig_Olinsky@example.com> writes:

    Craig> A little bit off topic, but can you recommend any
    Craig> reasonably priced IP's around/near Tsukuba?  You won't

I wish ....  What I plan to do is use Global Online (a provider I've
used for a while) and their All-Japan service.  The way this works is
you sign up through your provider with a separate company which
provides dialup access throughout Japan.  You dial their local access
number, then get a PPP (presumably telnet will work too) connection
through to your ISP.  Where they don't have a local number, you get a
0120-free-dial access.  There's some penalty for using the free dial
number, but basically it reduces the cost of a connection to Tokyo by
80% or more.

Of course, through the U I get good Internet access, but strangely
enough I get terrible access to anything that's not on the SINET (I've 
bitched about it recently on TLUG).  So it's useful to have another
provider on the side.  GOL also has excellent international access.

I can't read the company's name off the fax, but you might be able to
find out who it is from http://www.gol.com/.

GOL is still 35,000/year, so TWICS's 20,000/year beats that (Craig
Oda, do you guys provide this service?)

The rest is interesting only to Internet hackers....

    Craig> believe how long it takes from here (Tokodai) just to
    Craig> access your web page.  Apparently, ALL of our internet
    Craig> connections from the office go straight across the WAN to
    Craig> the US office and emerge there, and end up fending for
    Craig> themselves back across the Pacific.  Not the ideal setup
    Craig> for accessing "local" sites.

Well, a ping to ccm.intel.co.jp (ccm.ijkk.intel.com is just a mailbox,
I assume they're the same machine, they have the same MX records)
produces a very interesting result:

bash$ ping -c 10 ccm.intel.co.jp
PING ccm.intel.co.jp (198.175.103.120): 56 data bytes

--- ccm.intel.co.jp ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

And a traceroute was even more interesting:

bash$ traceroute ccm.intel.co.jp
traceroute to ccm.intel.co.jp (198.175.103.120), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  130.158.99.254 (130.158.99.254)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
 2  RD03.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (130.158.1.82)  5 ms  8 ms  3 ms
 3  fuyou-fddi.ric-tsukuba.ad.jp (192.70.180.254)  4 ms  3 ms  3 ms
 4  new-tsukuba.bb.sinet.ad.jp (150.99.3.1)  4 ms  3 ms  3 ms
 5  nishi-chiba.bb.sinet.ad.jp (150.99.105.1)  11 ms  12 ms  10 ms
 6  nacsis-gate3-F2/0.sinet.ad.jp (150.99.90.3)  21 ms  11 ms  8 ms
 7  sl-stk-7-S4/0-4xT1.sprintlink.net (144.228.47.113)  135 ms  134 ms  132 ms
 8  sl-stk-14-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.40.14)  135 ms  131 ms *
 9  sl-intelsc-1-S0-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.144.18)  142 ms  152 ms  133 ms
10  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  140 ms *
11  charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  153 ms *  178 ms
12  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  150 ms *
13  * * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  147 ms
14  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  141 ms *
15  charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  140 ms *  143 ms
16  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  145 ms *
17  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  138 ms *
18  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  158 ms *
19  * * *
20  charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  166 ms * *
21  charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  154 ms *  151 ms
22  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  147 ms *
23  * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  144 ms *
24  * * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  160 ms
25  * * *
26  charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  161 ms * *
27  * * *
28  charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  151 ms * *
29  * * charon-isp.sc.intel.com (192.198.128.129)  140 ms
30  * * *

If there's a firewall in place, and I wouldn't blame Intel one bit for 
having one, it should say "unreachable", not give an infinite loop.
Intel's network management leaves a lot to be desired, I should say.

    Craig> (On the topic of "fending across the pacific", I'm STILL
    Craig> waiting for my computers I sent sea mail to arrive.  I'm

6 weeks to 6 months is normal.  :-( How long have you been waiting?  I
sent my computer Nippon Express air, $250 nan'bon for a 15" monitor,
large tower, medium size laser printer, plus one box of etc, including
insurance premium for $10,000.

    Craig> Thanks (and hajimemashite),

    Craig> Craig_Olinsky@example.com (ASCII)
    Craig> olinskyc@example.com (JAPANESE TEXT)
                                     ^^^^^^^^
Looks more like Polish to me....  :-P

Steve

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                            Stephen J. Turnbull
Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences                    Yaseppochi-Gumi
University of Tsukuba                      http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/
Tel: +81 (298) 53-5091;  Fax: 55-3849              turnbull@example.com


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