Re: [tlug] Corona and schools in Japan

[Scott Robbins <scottro@example.com>]

On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 03:57:20PM +0900, Curt J. Sampson wrote:
> On 2020-04-30 11:40 -0400 (Thu), Scott Robbins wrote:
> 
> > For me it's Slack. When they started, it was easy to use irssi and weechat
> > with them. Then they took the irc gateway off....
> >
> > Anyway, point being that Slack started being able to work with everything
> > and is gradually pushing them all out--seems like they're using the old
> > embrace, engulf, and extinguish (or whatever it is).
> 
> Well, that seems to me a natural effect of Slack being what it is. In
> terms of features and usability, Slack is one of the best chat systems
> out there. (With the odd exception: why they insist that link text
> must be the raw URL, even if it's a 250 character unreadable
> monstrosity, is beyond me.) In other chat systems I really miss
> threads and embedded shared editable documents, for example.

I can't say I disagree, but I'm old and can certainly sulk. Your
explanation, (much of which, I fear, I snipped) helps clarify why they do
it the way that they do, and I thank you. But it is still, to me, a major
inconvenience--they did answer an email of mine (we're corporate users,
though very small, probably less than 100 employees) saying that they
realized it wasn't what I wanted to hear, but that's where it was going. Oh
well, as long as I save my weechat configs, I should be alright, I hope,
even after they drop the legacy token as I don't have to refresh it with
weechat--I do have to refresh it when trying with irssi and bitlbee. 

(Much of Curt's explnation snipped, but its' there in the tlug archives) 

> 
> So as commercial services go, Slack looks to me to be one of the most
> innocuous. Their model is clearly to make money by directly charging
> the organizations that want the service, and they have no interest in
> anybody who's not willing to pay for that. They're nothing at all like
> the truly insidious examples of exploitative services, such as Line.
> 
> cjs
> 

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