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- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 17:40:11 +0900
- From: Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] hosting in Japan
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Well, Josh already gave a good reply to this, but I've got a few further comments. On 2017-02-13 03:55 +0000 (Mon), Jason Frisch wrote: > We see many instances where customers move to us (and our non-big 4 > competitors), because AWS was just the “easy” choice when they get > started, but once they need real performance and stability, and > cost-performance, AWS doesn’t tick any boxes so they search for > alternatives. I expect Google is the same, but never done a > cost-performance comparison. In a word, "no," and you do yourself a disservice by expressing things this way. While you are certainly correct that cost-performance varies, and my personal experience with Tsukaeru was that it offered better cost-performance than AWS did for what I was trying to do, it's really, really important to understand exactly what one is trying to do to determine if the performance is there at all. For example, there are requests that can't be handled by a CDN, such as updating individual information about a user. If you're trying to scale to global levels at high reliability with this sort of thing you need a load balancer (or, actually, a set of load balancers) on an anycast[1] address which is handled by multiple data centers on different contenents. Google's Cloud Load Balancing[2] does just this: do you do the same? (Do you even offer the ability to have servers in data centers outside of Asia?) (For an example of the kind of problems you can run into when you're a global-scale site and running on a single load balancer, have a look at Netlify's DDOS experience last August.[3] Would you be capable of dealing with that sort of thing better than Rackspace?) Another area where it looks like you're not playing with the "big boys" is in disk I/O operations per second (IOPS). "IOPS free" isn't particularly comforting, since nobody can give you unlimited IOPS. If I need to spec. a cluster that I know can handle continuous 50,000 IOPS across its storage that's easy enough to do with GCP or AWS; your pages don't even offer that sort of information. Don't take this as Tsukaeru not being a good service; in fact, I'm pretty sure that for some kinds of applications it's going to be better than GCP or AWS. But trying to claim that you're better than Google or Amazon even for large-scale (hundreds of thousands of requests per second) applications is just going to give people the impression that you don't really know what you're doing, at least when your web site doesn't support that. (If you do have multiple data centers around the world and load balancers with anycast addresses that balance across all of these, my apologies, and you may want to update your web site to make it clear that this is the kind of service you offer. And, if like Google, you actually build your own switches and other networking hardware, even more props to you, though you really should be telling people about this.) [1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4786 [2]: https://cloud.google.com/load-balancing/ [3]: https://www.netlify.com/blog/2016/08/23/august-22nd-ddos-learning-review/ cjs -- Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com> +81 90 7737 2974 To iterate is human, to recurse divine. - L Peter Deutsch
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