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- Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:18:44 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Proprietary derivatives of FLOSS and other absurdities
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Benjamin Tayehanpour writes: > I'm perfectly happy to define reciprocative behaviour by the actual > end result, regardless of motive or any personal gain which happens > to befall one along the way, intentionally or otherwise. Adam Smith's device of the invisible hand, once again independently discovered by a socialist centuries after he did. Gotta love it! But we economists know a lot about the invisible hand, and it doesn't really help us understand much about either the value the stock market perceives in Japanese corporate shares, nor the growth of FLOSS adoption via both commercial offerings and developer social networks (ie, mediated by the Internet). Despite your frothy words about "averaging extreme political positions", it seems to me that in practice these things are going to be determined by the interests of large corporations, not by RMS and Bono's widow. Our best hopes for reducing the monopolies produced by patent and copyright (although the latter doesn't matter much to commercial software in practice) lie in IBM and Google lobbying[1] vying with Disney and Microsoft's, not in RMS's extremism, which is incoherent[2] and and unfair[3]. Footnotes: [1] Which is not inconsistent with vigorous defense of existing IP rights. [2] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#On_sex depends on a distinction between "voluntary" and "coerced" which cannot be made in practice without constant invasion of privacy. Also, his specious distinction between software and documentation. [3] Calling Dmitri Sklyarov a "traitor", despite Sklyarov's lack of U.S. citizenship or avowal of the free software movement is his classic public bobble in this direction.
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