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Re: [tlug] Holy smokes, Unity and Gnome 3 suck worse than I ever could have imagined.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:05:46PM +0900, Raedwolf Summoner wrote:

> Spot on.
> And the "new" teeny-bop OS stuff on iPads/iPhones/whatnot is really
> not the future. Not for real computing. It is fine for teeny-bop "social
> networking" apps that run on "monitors" the size of your hand, but
> try that nonsense when you're working with real programs on a couple
> of monitors both of which are bigger than my old TV was. You'd have
> to create new Wing Chun katas and incorporate them into your
> computing. All that flailing about would get old fast. And I've never
> seen a keyboard replacement that really works with an app that
> actually requires the kind of input that a keyboard does best.

I have the same feeling.  My feeling, especially since, with a job
change, I'm mostly RH now, (and going there from the BSDs was a
shock--see a bunch of programs running at boot, hit man <program_name>
and find nothing), and what I see in Fedora which is the test bed, in
theory, is that developers seem to be kids with smart phones.   GUI
boots by default, all the bloat possible, the rather fun one, where the
GUI package manager, packagekit, didn't require any authentication for
installin packages.  A bug was filed, the developer said, You've given
no reason for the complaint, the filer said, Because asking for
passwords for system changes is how Unix has done it for 40 years, to
get the answer that the developer didn't care how Unix has done things
for 40 years--that made the front page of slashdot, and Fedora decided
to change it.  

Anaconda has crippled text mode (with a spin worthy of Windows Genunine
Advantage, they call it streamlined and simplified), and several text
based, well curses based, tools, have in their man page that they are
deprecated in favor of the GUI.   They will have far more limitations
than their GUI equivalent. 

The old troll statement was, BSD is for people who love Unix and Linux
for people who hate Windows.  It's becoming more and more true with some
of the desktop distributions.  

> > I have looked around the net, and the hatred for Unity and
> > Gnome3-shell is pretty significant.

On Fedora forums, they did a poll--while certainly not very
statistically accurate, a surprising percentage preferred Gnome 3--I
think the new crop of smart phone kids likes this stuff and wants their
pretty GUIs and hate those ugly text messages when booting, and...

Ok, I've definitely become an old curmudgeon, I'll stop now.

Scott Robbins
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