Mailing List Archive
tlug.jp Mailing List tlug archive tlug Mailing List Archive
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:13:06 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- References: <AANLkTikdmkNROMLiQT6nYU5kpLSCtuChHblKsbpETcsr@example.com> <20100702150823.08c57d3a.attila@example.com> <8739w1x9ke.fsf@example.com> <20100714115216.c23a1a0c.attila@example.com> <87mxtugecz.fsf@example.com> <20100715122730.1aa43624.attila@example.com> <87eif4ggig.fsf@example.com> <4C44D1C1.4050801@example.com>
Fredric Fredricson writes: > On 07/16/2010 07:08 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > In the U.S. and to some extent in Japan, there are options such as > > contract work. Much less job security, less to no fringe benefits, > > but the direct compensation is comparable (and sometimes substantially > > higher), and you get experience relevant to permanent positions in > > your field. > Why do you assume that there are no contract workers in Europe? I don't assume that there are *none*. After all, it is a market economy, and demand will seek out supply. Just that my understanding (from people who should know, ie, labor economists at the U. of Madrid and U. of Barcelona, INSEAD and U. of Toulouse, Cambridge U.) is that there is much less flexibility in regard to the fixed costs of hiring in Europe than there is in the U.S. and Japan. My understanding is that if you hire someone on the books, you have to pay their social insurance contributions etc., there are constraints on hours of work, vacations, etc, that make contract workers in general hardly less expensive than regular workers of comparable job description and qualification. IOW, it's generally not a way where you can make yourself more attractive to potential employers by making yourself cheaper and giving them more flexibility, unless you accept a much bigger cut in your cash flow than would be the case in the U.S., or even Japan. Given the relatively generous unemployment benefits, unemployment ends up looking pretty good! This inflexibility is certainly what politicians and the mass media find attractive about proposals that they claim are inspired by European laws and regulations, anyway, because it's precisely the problems of maintaining social insurance contribution rates and providing for income security in case of abrupt termination of employment that have raised such a hooraw about contract workers here recently.
- Follow-Ups:
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Fredric Fredricson
- References:
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Attila Kinali
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Stephen J. Turnbull
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Attila Kinali
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Stephen J. Turnbull
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Attila Kinali
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Stephen J. Turnbull
- Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- From: Fredric Fredricson
Home | Main Index | Thread Index
- Prev by Date: Re: [tlug] enquiry about RAM
- Next by Date: Re: [tlug] [announcement] nomikai July 23 (Friday)
- Previous by thread: Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- Next by thread: Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
- Index(es):
Home Page Mailing List Linux and Japan TLUG Members Links