Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>]

Attila Kinali writes:

 > Today, with the Bologna Reform, the whole unversity system in europe
 > is in a turmoil. Students were on strike not long ago because of the
 > whole reform made the problems worse it tried to solve. Not to speak
 > of a general decline in education quality, because everything has to
 > be measurable now in ECTS points (which has exactly the same effects
 > as exact accounting of everything in the comercial world has).

You mean, people actually do jobs that paying customers want done? :-)
Seems rather unlikely in *any* country's academia. :-) :-)

Seriously, the real problem that European students face is that there
is no such thing as cheap labor in Europe, labor in the ex-Western
Europe is inordinately expensive, and it's a lifetime commitment to a
major drain on profits on the part of the employer.  Nice work for
those who can get work, and the rest are, well, fucked.  I don't think
any purely educational reform (or lack of it) is going to help much.