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- Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:08:55 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] [OT] A Question About Degrees
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Attila Kinali writes: > The outcome is now, that the starting dates differ more than before. > Although we have know only two types of degrees (BSc and MSc), those > are even less comparable among universities, because nobody knows how > they mapped their diploma degrees to those (no, it is not even uniform > within a country). Sounds messy. Still, I don't think it has anything like the impact that secular changes in the structure of the European economy have. > Hence i dont think that those who cannot atain a higher education > are fucked. That is not what I said. What I said is that those who don't get jobs (corresponding to their educational level) are fucked. What I have been told by French and Spanish labor economists is that those who do not succeed in getting jobs have no alternative but to go to graduate school or be unemployed (but I repeat myself :-) or work at MacDonald's (which is arguably somewhat useful to society, but doesn't pay anywhere near as well as software engineering or architecture). In the U.S. and to some extent in Japan, there are options such as contract work. Much less job security, less to no fringe benefits, but the direct compensation is comparable (and sometimes substantially higher), and you get experience relevant to permanent positions in your field. Japan does have a lot of such friction, more on the side of new graduates (who have a fourth option sometimes taken: suicide) than on the side of companies which quite happily (until recently when they started getting seriously bashed for it) used contract workers. But I can't see it as a solution to introduce more European-style rules to create further barriers to hiring here. And, apropos the OP, the restrictions (both formal and informal) on contract work apply less to gaijin than they do to Japanese, creating an opportunity for foreigners (those who think they can hustle well enough to deal with the job insecurity).
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