Re: [tlug] openssh on Centos 5.2

[Scott Robbins <scottro@example.com>]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:30:15PM +0900, Gen Kanai wrote:
> 
> On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> 
> > Oh gosh, don't get me started.  Updated firefox on CentOS lately?  Or
> > tried installing Fedora, unchecking both KDE and Gnome, to find that
> > PolicyKit will install one or the other?
> >
> > (Firefox, on both CentOS and Fedora installs, whether you tell it to
> > check before installing addons or not, 71 language packs.)
> 
> That's unfortunate.
> 
> CentOS and Fedora (as well as all of the Linux distros) roll their own  
> builds of Firefox off Mozilla binaries, so please note that this is  
> not a Mozilla requirement or request.

Some Fedora folks were saying this was an upstream decision, but
downloading builds from Mozilla indicate that this isn't the case. 
> 
> Mozilla works pretty closely with RH and Canonical and Suse (iirc) but  
> have less influence over community-driven distros like CentOS or Fedora.

CentOS, in theory at least, should be pulling from RH, not Fedora.
Fedora is saying that it is because they are international, but thanks,
in part, to Rahul S. and Adam W., they're at least investigating other
solutions.  What disturbs me most isn't a bloated default--I'm used to
that with RH.  :)  (Oh, shame on me.)  It's that the user has absolutely
no control over it.  If one removes all language packs (which has to be
done as root, and takes at least 4 keystrokes per language), it just
gets put back with the next upgrade.  

There is a bugzilla request--let me see if I can find it.... Sheeesh,
their bugzilla is REALLY slow.....

Ah, here it is. 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477127

Discussion on Fedora Forums, including comments from Rahul. 

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=208534

If you wish to post a comment on Fedora forums, without bothering to
register, let me know and I'll get it posted in that thread. 

Believe me, just about everyone would be grateful if you could do
something about this, even if it's stating that it is NOT an upstream
decision, but something that Fedora/CentOS (and possibly RH) have, in
their MS fashion, decided as a Thing That Should Be.  

> 
> I'm looking in to see if there's some better solution here, so thank  
> you for bringing this up.

Just, for what it's worth, it's one reason I loathe opening firefox in
Fedora, (which is my primary O/S at work) or CentOS (my primary O/S at
home), simply because of this. 

Many people would be grateful.

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Scott Robbins
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