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- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:21:07 -0800
- From: Noah Watkins <jayhawk@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Just curious... how much impact does a kernel update make?
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I just joined this conversation, but I would like to point out that the Linux Kernel developers have made a serious commitment to supporting their API. What this means is that the interface exported by the Kernel, which applications see (e.g. through libc), is practically set-in-stone when Linus accepts the change. This is part of the reason that adding new system calls is such a big deal.
That said, it is also worth noting standards, for example POSIX, which allows *anything* in the kernel to change, as long as the accepted behavior visible to user-space programs remains constant. Note that the in-Kernel API, not visible to user-space programs, is actually very fluid, and changes often.
- Noah
On Nov 19, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Edward Middleton wrote:
Dave M G wrote:Which comes back to my original question, how much end-result impact do these new kernel features have for an end-user such as myself?
One of
1. no impact. 2. some impact 3. great impact.
or something in-between.
You as a user, in general, interact with programs not the kernel so any
changes in the kernel will only effect you in as much as they effect
changes in the programs you use. This is why this is a question that
can't be answered definitively.
To clarify with an example, how will the addition of epoll improve things for an end user? If the users programs aren't capable of using epoll they won't see any advantage, but if the programs use epoll they will see a massive performance improvement.
Are they making changes that don't affect me at all if I don't happen to have relevant hardware?Yes
.. are they incrementally improving my system in some way I might understand if I knew what to look for?Yes
Edward
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