Re: [tlug] tokyo linux developers?

[Niels Kobschätzki <n.kobschaetzki@example.com>]

On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Niels KobschÃtzki wrote:

> On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Josh Glover wrote:
>
> > On 04/06/07, Mattia Dongili <malattia@example.com> wrote:
> >
> > > (Though the only Japanese I know is "ææèãåãããã 
> > > ã"... and I'm
> > > not even sure it's correct...)
> >
> > Nope. ææèãããããããã;)
> >
> > You *can* write it with the kanji å in this case, I think (there is
> > some rule about which meaning of ããã is written correctly  
> > as åãã and
> > which is not, but I cannot remember it exactly).
>
> Iirc "èã" and "åãã" are synonym - I guess the first one is  
> the classical character and will be used more frequently in novels.
>
> > But you must always use the particle ã instead of ã for the  
> > potential
> > form of a verb. Hence æãèã but æãèãã ("read a  
> > book" versus "able to
> > read a book", respectively).
>
> I think that is wrong - I'm quite sure (and "A Dictionary of  
> Intermediate Japanese Grammar" from The Japan Times seems to say  
> the same at page 553ff. which is about the potential form)  that  
> particle usage is the same and that depends on the verb (åãã  
> is used with ã while you'll say æãèãã) or the usage  
> (like the difference in ã/ãèã)

I think you mixed it up with åãè where the object-particle ã  
becomes the subject-particle ã

Cheers,

Niels