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- Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 01:37:30 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Free versus open: a rant
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>>>>> "Botond" == Botond Botyanszki <tlug@example.com> writes: Botond> Let's not argue, I use gnomemeeting to talk to my family Botond> (they use netmeeting) without the use of the patented Botond> algorithm and the quicknet card. *sigh* You could have said that in the first place, you know. Botond> Because and additional patented codec is available if you Botond> pay money (for the hardware or the impl), this doesn't Botond> make it any worse IMHO. >> Good for you! However, rms, the FSF, and _the GNU Project_ >> _do_ think that makes it worse. rms has compared purchasing >> proprietary software to selling yourself into slavery![1] Botond> Let's not start the RMS discussion. Too late---that's the whole motivation! The point is that GNOME is the GNU Network Object Model Environment. GNU is a social movement dedicated to advancing the cause of free software, including eliminating proprietary software entirely, if possible, as soon as possible. GNOME itself was deliberately created to avoid a dependency on a non-free library, and I was genuinely surprised at posts saying that you need patented hardware for a major GnomeMeeting feature. Furthermore, rms regularly blocks changes to GNU software on the grounds that they encourage use of proprietary software (he delayed support for editing remote files in Emacs until OpenSSH stabilized, and still refuses to allow DLLs in Emacs, for example). The VoIP to POTS feature of GnomeMeeting strikes me as analogous, and I'm quite surprised that they don't offer an unencumbered alternative at degraded quality, at least in principle. Botond> Since gnomemeeting is under the GPL, you (or RMS) can make Botond> your own version and rip out the advertisement. Why would I want to do that? It happens once on installation, no? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.
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