Re: [tlug] disk configuration: drive mounting

[Josh Glover <jmglov@example.com>]

Viktor Pavlenko wrote:
>>>>>>"JG" == Josh Glover <jmglov@example.com> writes:
> 
>     JG> Chris is right on, as usual.  [...]

Shoulda known that *that* comment would get me flamed! ;)

>     JG> "don't make sense". If they instead took the attitude that
>     JG> Linux / BSD / AtheOS / whatever is a great platform, but a few
>     JG> things could be made easier, and then made suggestions to the
>     JG> developers (in a reasonable tone of voice, of course), there
>     JG> would be less tension.
> 
> I'm sure it's _not_ where we want it to go. We'd like to protect linux
> from the attitude of those people (but it may well be only a wishful
> thinking). If they want gui to edit a text file, unix is not their
> system, period. (...is emacs run inside X a gui???)

My point was more along the lines of, it is a bit arrogant and downright 
shitty to complain that the OSS/FSF community sucks because they do not 
create GUI config tools. I then intended to point out that if you want 
something, doing it yourself is always an option, and is sure to cause 
less loss of respect than publicly bitching to a LUG/UUG about how 
1337-455 Chris Sekiya types 5uX0r because they want everyone to use vi 
instead of GUIs. (Note, I am not accusing Mario (tashika ni, it was 
Mario who started this thread, was it not?) of this at all. But I have 
seen this attitude before, a time too many. Even on *gasp* this list.)

I do not quite agree with your statement, "If they want gui to edit a 
text file, unix is not their system, period." Naze ka to imasu to, the 
UNIX philosophy translates to GUI quite admirably, IMHO. What I mean by 
this is, small, powerful tools with a very specific function that can be 
combined to do Damn Near Anything (tm). Now, I will admit that I have 
not seen this philosophy actually *implemented* in a GUI very well, but 
why couldn't it be?

But, I digress a bit. If there are people who want these GUI-thingys for 
system configuration stuff, more power to them as long as they don't 
expect *me* to write said thingys. That is more or less what I was 
suggesting.

And yes, emacs run inside of X is a GUI! Everyone knows that real men 
use vi from an xterm. Or is that a GUI, as well? ;)

-Josh "yes, I use emacs inside of X, but only for the 
syntax-highlighting" Glover [1]

[1] Standard reference to Chris Sekiya for the purposes of avoiding 
plagiarism accusations.