Re: tlug: The whole affair

[Jonathan Byrne - 3Web <jq@example.com>]

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

>Unmoderated lists and newsgroups, issues like this are normally
>discussed in-band on.  Taking it out-of-band implies either (a) that
>the discussion should take place among "persons of power" and is
>irrelevant to the run-of-the-mill members or (b) it's pure flame
>anyway.  "Necessary" rules out (b) ....

If I'm not mistaken, tlug-admin is not a closed list, but a list separated for
the purpose of discussing administrative (rather than Linux/UNIX) issues, so
that is not really a matter of "persons of power."  Nothing is done in secret.
Anyone can subsribe, AFAIK. This is a quote from the TLUG web site:

"The TLUG-admin mailing list is also archived. It is used for discussion
related to the administration of TLUG financial affairs, upcoming events,
maintaining the server, and other topics not suited to the main list. "

My suggestion was based on the belief that the Jive issue was sufficiently
flogged and had grown sufficiently removed from the topic of Linux that it had
indeed become an administrative issue, and should therefore be on the
administrative list.  Anyone may subscribe to that list and participate.
"Open Source and Open Policies, Openly Arrived at" :-)

Regarding b), the fact that something is pure flame doesn't mean that some
people don't feel that it's unnecessary.  It seemed like a good time to defuse
a thread that had run its useful course and was beginning to look more like a
shootout.

I apologize if I gave anyone the impression that I thought the discussion
should take place among "persons of power," but I did and do believe it had
become irrelevant to the main list, had gone on too long,  and was showing
signs of moving from discussion to fight, so I stand by my suggestion that it
was best taken away from the main list.

And of course, if this needs any more discussion, I think that should also be
done on tlug-admin :-)

Regards,

Jonathan Byrne
Media and Content Section
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