Re: tlug: ibm.net with LINUX (Red Hat)

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>]

>>>>> "Karl-Max" == Karl-Max Wagner <karlmax@example.com> writes:

>>>>> ">" == Jonathan Byrne writes:

    >> iPass did a presentation with us a couple of months back, and I
    >> need to translate that into Japanese and send it on to
    >> management.  At the time

Yes, you do.  Global is already using GRIC and it works fine.  With
Windose.  TL-2.0J's pppd unfortunately doesn't much like out-of-band
logins (ie, non-PAP/CHAP).  But this is true on both my school line
and GOL in Tokyo, too, so I'm sure it would work with GRIC.

Avoid anybody who is cooperating with Compu$ux, though.  They are a
hoser.

    Karl-Max> ????Must be a bureaucratic Internet
    Karl-Max> provider. Management. Yuck !  I just talked with the
    Karl-Max> crew at OberlandNet and then things were set. But we
    Karl-Max> take a lot of pride NOT to be bureaucratic and very
    Karl-Max> flexible.

    >> I met with the them, they said that the iPass dialer was not
    >> available in a Linux version, and they didn't seem to have any
    >> plans of releasing one.  Has that changed, or is there a
    >> work-around?

    Karl-Max> As far as I understand the dialler is just a convenience
    Karl-Max> to find you the most close by dial-in point. You can,

I don't know how they work.  There are two possibilities, a hard-coded 
list and a special access account which can only look up phone lists.
Either way, this could easily be replicated in Linux, and the reason
they don't is that they're scared to death of anything that requires
you to know how something works---because they know that they don't
and that we do (despite my disclaimer above ;-).

    Karl-Max> however, look that up in a list by hand as well and then
    Karl-Max> doing the dialling in yourself.

Right.  AFAICT GRIC simply has a CGI that generates a Windows dialer
by patching the file, then HTTPs it to your box.

    Karl-Max> I personally consider their dialler typical stuff for
    Karl-Max> lusers. If you made it towards Linux you most probably
    Karl-Max> don't want it anyway.

Right.  For example, all of the in-area POPs for GRIC were Copusick.
It didn't accept the normal GRIC format, despite allegedly being
available for GRIC.  So I had to go out of area code.  Somebody
dependent on Windose dialers would not have been able to do that
easily, I suspect.

And now for something completely different:

    Karl-Max> short, it sucks. If you've ever used qmail, you'll NEVER
    Karl-Max> go back to sendmail - particularly if you've read the
    Karl-Max> latest issue of PHRACK.

qmail's author unfortunately is enough of a blowhard that I don't know 
that I trust his abilities, although some other people I know vouch
for his competence, as well as his confidence.

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