Re: tlug: Umlauts & Kanji

[jwb@example.com (Jim Breen)]

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tlug note from jwb@example.com (Jim Breen)
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On Sep 19,  9:17pm, "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote:
} Subject: Re: tlug: Umlauts & Kanji
>> 
>>     Jim> At present I think you need to do it by coding your Japanese
>>     Jim> as iso-2022-jp. For the two-byte codes such as EUC and SJIS,
>>                                  ~~~~~~~~
>>     SJT> 8-bit? -----------------+
>> 
>>     Jim> No, I meant two-byte, i.e. 16-bit (OK, EUC can be 3-bytes).
>> 
>> I'm still confused.  In what sense is JIS not 2 bytes?  In what sense
>> are half-width katakana two bytes?  The issue is the 8th bit, right?
>> That's why SJIS half-width kana are incompatible with umlauts AFAIK.

I think of EUC & Shift-JIS as two-byte codes. I don't regard ISO-2022 as
this, because the Shift in/out sequences add more bytes; lots of them for
mixed text.

Strictly speaking, the half-width katakana are not Shift-JIS; they are JIS
X 0201. As codes they co-exist, with Shit-JIS steering clear of the
half-width katakana code-points.

>> downgraded from a toplevel domain to a mere .co.jp, but there it is...
>> 
>>        http://www.ntt.co.jp/japan/note-on-JP/multi-example.html
>> 
>> You're welcome :-)

Thanks. Yes, it's all in ISO-2022, chopping between language codes.

>> Oh, I'm just a Zippy fan.  I didn't mean to be a Pinhead about it.  It
>> is heaven's preordained course; after our last exchange I went and
>> asked around, and nobody hardly ever uses JIS-0212, let alone the last
>> 90,000 code points of the CNS sets.  If you really need 'em, there
>> will still be UCS-4.  

JIS212 are all in UCS-2, so they have a chance.

>>     Jim> Well, I'm sorry to say that I think NT users are likely to
>>     Jim> see Unicode a lot sooner than those of us using Unix
>>     Jim> variants. I could be wrong, and "uterm" might be just around
>>     Jim> the corner, but.....
>> 
>> It's called "9term", actually, and it comes as a Debian Linux
>> package.  But don't ask me, <A HREF="mailto:craig@example.com">ask Craig 
>> Oda</A>, he actually has it installed....

I have known about 9term for a couple of years, but I didn't know it was
around for Linux. Debian, eh? Anyone got it for RedHat? SlackWare?

Jim

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