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- Date: 31 May 96 12:43:00 EDT
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Form: Reply Text: (16 lines follow) Stephen, Obviously you're not keeping up with MS news. I've been surfing the net with MS word (yes, using tcp/ip) for 6 months or longer, and you will be soon also, if not you, your customers. MSN is a dog, but look how much more Nifty, AOL, and CIS are, and they have millions of customers. When you don't use the platform your customers are using, you lose sight of their perspective. One of the reasons win 3.1 is so fast is that the developers were forced to use it on slow machines. Think about it. Ted Original text: (62 lines follow) >From owner-tlug@example.com, on 5/31/96 12:17 PM: >>>>> "TMatsumu" == TMatsumu <TMatsumu@example.com> writes: Craig> While, the cross-platform office may be still a bit in Craig> the future, when it does come, we will be there ready Craig> for it. Craig> Justification for why I use Linux in the office -- not Craig> bad huh? TMatsumu> I don't see what's cross platform about Linux. Because TMatsumu> it runs on '386 and '486? Every MS app, os and server TMatsumu> also runs tcp/ip, and runs on a half dozen CPU's Linux Microsoft Word runs TCP/IP!! You heard it here first! TMatsumu> doesn't, not to mention OLE functionality, cross TMatsumu> platform graphics and multimedia that are here today TMatsumu> without recompiling. You're missing his point. His point was that TCP/IP is a cross-platform standard. Linux figures only as an example of the set of oddball systems that TWICS would like to be able to support. MS is still trying to dominate every possible software market. But recently, they've found that they can't do it. Netscape has blown them away on browsers, there is no reason to use MS to serve HTTP. The MS Network was still-born. So if you standardize on MS apps, and they make another big mistake, you risk getting left behind. Very samll risk for Adaptec internally; big risk for TWICS who would like my business as well as yours. If you make sure that all your platforms handle TCP/IP properly, and your IPC for networked applications uses TCP/IP, then you can integrate across platforms. Big cost in tech support. Adaptec shouldn't do it; they can standardize internally at very little risk. TWICS probably should do it, they have to have the techs anyway. AFAIKBIDKVM (henceforth abbreviated to A9M ;-), MS Word is *still* not cross-platform. Mac Word files still cannot be read, *not* edited, and rewritten on a DOS machine without munging them. (At least, that's what my buddy complained about in january, back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth.) As of a year ago (only a few minutes after Creation, I know), MS Word in Japanese, any version any platform, would alter English files by reading in and writing out without any user edits. Going the other direction destroys the file. Yes, MS Office is a great product (albeit one that I cannot stand). But *Emacs + TeX + DVIPS*, not Word, is a cross-platform DTP standard. Most of the world can't stand to use TeX, and even more can't even remember how to exit the minibuffer if you accidentally press <ESC><ESC> in Emacs. So much as I love that combination, it's not a great standard. Cross-platform work is going to be complicated for the forseeable future (ie, until next week). -- Stephen John Turnbull University of Tsukuba Yaseppochi-Gumi Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/ Tennodai 1-1-1, Tsukuba, 305 JAPAN turnbull@example.com Use Proportional Font: true Previous From: owner-tlug@example.com Previous To: tlug@example.com Attachment Count: 0 --$----Novell--Attachment----$ X-NVL-Content-Type: UNKNOWN X-NVL-Content-Typename: UNKNOWN X-NVL-Content-Charset: X-IBM-437 X-NVL-Content-Filename: ATTRIBS.BND X-NVL-Content-Transfer-Encoding: X-UUENCODE begin 777 ATTRIBS.BND M0F5Y;VYD(%!A8VME9"!!='1R:6)U=&5S`([]"$<P"@``````0F5Y;VYD(%!R M;W!R:65T87)Y($1A=&$:`````!$```````0`#0"*`@`````````````````` M````````3W)I9VEN86P@=&5X=,\+1@example.com`````````````>`(#`,\+<@("``(` M```^``(``0`!`#4``````````@`V`)H+````````./\```````"0`0`````` M````35,@example.com%N<R!397)I9@``````````````````````````````./\````` M``"0`0``````````0V]U<FEE<@`````````````````````````````````` M`````0`!`#8``@`V`/=_`@!X`/=_`@!Y`/=_`@"[`/=_`@#\`/=_`@`/`?=_ M`@`0`?=_`@!2`?=_`@!F`?=_`@!G`?=_`@"M`?=_`@#R`?=_`@`W`O=_`@`X M`O=_`@!O`O=_`@!P`O=_`@"O`O=_`@#R`O=_`@`5`_=_`@`6`_=_`@!0`_=_ M`@"6`_=_`@#6`_=_`@#7`_=_`@`;!/=_`@!>!/=_`@"A!/=_`@#G!/=_`@`J M!?=_`@!O!?=_`@"M!?=_`@#J!?=_`@`M!O=_`@!J!O=_`@"P!O=_`@#8!O=_ M`@#9!O=_`@`@!_=_`@!D!_=_`@"E!_=_`@#K!_=_`@`P"/=_`@!R"/=_`@"V M"/=_`@#P"/=_`@#Q"/=_`@`U"?=_`@!\"?=_`@"_"?=_`@#]"?=_`@!""O=_ M`@!2"O=_`@!3"O=_`@"5"O=_`@"S"O=_`@"T"O=_`@"X"O=_`@#I"O=_`@`V M"_=_`@"#"_=_`@#0"_=_````````````````9``!I`$!2`,![`0!D`8!-`@! MV`D!?`L!(`T!Q`X!:!`!#!(!L!,!5!4!^!8```````````````!D``'@`0'` G`P&@!0&`!P%@"0%`"P$@#0$`#P'@$`'`$@&@%`&`%@%@&`%`&@`` ` end --$----Novell--Attachment----$--
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