Re: Various Kterm and kon problems ...

[turnbull@example.com (Stephen J. Turnbull)]

>>>>> "Shigeru" == Shigeru Abe <sabe@example.com> writes:

    Shigeru> I use kterm and kon to read Japanese e-mail via Pine
    Shigeru> 3.93.  Although, I didn't do any Japanese specific
    Shigeru> configuration for Pine, I can read most messages fine
    Shigeru> using either Kon and Kterm.

Very interesting.

    Shigeru> The problem is when the message title or authors name is
    Shigeru> in Japanese. When this happens, the whole dispays turns
    Shigeru> to junk.  Do I need to fix pine or can I make kterm / kon
    Shigeru> immune somehow?

... mutter mutter ... not 8-bit clean ... mutter mutter.

Yes, you probably need to fix Pine.  Here's my *guess*, I don't use
Pine very much.  What's happening is that Pine processes the headers
to make them stand out, and maybe even adds info from the address
book.  Evidently Pine is either getting confused by the "control
sequences" (aka kanji but Pine doesn't know about kanji or JIS or EUC)
in the headers or it's adding or interleaving control sequences that
confuse kterm when combined with the kanji (like maybe changing the
kterm from EUC to SJIS mode or something like that, that's a *really*
wild guess).

You can probably turn off Pine's highlighting from its setup menu;
that might help.

There is probably a jpine around somewhere, I know there's a jelm.

    Shigeru> Also kterm normally starts up in a very tiny font (at
    Shigeru> least on 1024x768), I tried to change to larger fonts but
    Shigeru> somehow the kanji and roman fonts never quite match (in
    Shigeru> terms of size).  I normally have to manually change size
    Shigeru> upon loading kterm using ctrl-(right mouse button).  Does
    Shigeru> anyone know what font combination kterm is using in large
    Shigeru> and small modes?

According to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/KTerm,

*fontMenu.Label:  VT Fonts
*fontMenu*fontdefault*Label:    Default
*VT100*fontList:                -*-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*
!*VT100*font:			-*-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-iso8859-1
!*VT100*romanKanaFont:		-*-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-jisx0201.1976-0
!*VT100*kanjiFont:		-*-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-jisx0208.1983-0
!*VT100*boldFontList:           -*-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*
!*VT100*boldFont:               -*-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-iso8859-1
!*VT100*romanKanaBoldFont:	-*-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-jisx0201.1976-0
!*VT100*kanjiBoldFont:		-*-fixed-bold-r-normal--14-*-jisx0208.1983-0

*fontMenu*font3*Label:          Small
*VT100*fontList3:               -*-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-*

*fontMenu*font5*Label:          Large
*VT100*fontList5:               -*-fixed-medium-r-normal--24-*

The '!' is a comment character.  The comments show you what the
fontList expands to.  I dropped the comments from the "Small" and
"Large" resource specifications.

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                           Stephen John Turnbull
University of Tsukuba                                        Yaseppochi-Gumi
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