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- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 12:44:02 +0100
- From: James Tobin <jamesbtobin@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Ghosted?
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 12:10, Curt J. Sampson <cjs@example.com> wrote: > > Was there anything in the contract that said they couldn't do this? If not, > they're perfectly within their rights to do exactly this. If it bothers > you, you could try to get future clients to sign a contract forbidding this > sort of behaviour, but in my experience when you have a client that really > doesn't want to work with you, you're better off getting separated as soon > as reasonably possible, rather than trying to force them to work with you. > Thanks, Curt. I appreciate your perspective. The final clause of the contract states: Term: The Agreement shall be effective upon the Effective Date and shall continue until terminated by either party in writing. The expiry or earlier termination of this Agreement shall not affect or prejudice (a) the rights, obligations or liabilities of either party which have accrued prior to such expiry or termination; or (b) the operation of any provision of this Agreement which is expressed to survive, or which from its nature or context is intended to survive, such expiry or termination. Based on this, I’m asserting that obligations such as providing feedback, progressing candidates, and honoring introductions made prior to termination still apply. These are not casual expectations—they’re part of the ongoing responsibilities embedded in the agreement. What’s troubling is that their legal team is now attempting to weaponize specific contract terms, such as the clause stating that recruitment must be initiated by HR. Yet historically, they’ve engaged my services—including hiring candidates—without formal HR requests. This pattern of conduct suggests a broader, more flexible working relationship than the strict letter of the contract implies. In 20 years, I’ve never encountered a situation like this. It feels deeply off. During a recent call, HR shouted at me and made inappropriate references to my gender, skin color, and the size of my company—calling it a “one-man band.” These remarks were not only irrelevant but entirely unwarranted, especially given that I was simply seeking feedback on candidates. While I’m not personally offended by such references in isolation, their use in this context raises serious questions about professionalism and bias. It seems symptomatic of a wider trend: employers ghosting recruiters, avoiding feedback, and opting to post roles on platforms like LinkedIn to bypass external support. This isn’t just about one contract—it’s about the erosion of professional standards in recruitment. I believe this situation gives rise to an equitable estoppel claim. The company’s consistent pattern of engaging my services without formal HR requests created a reasonable expectation that such conduct would continue. I relied on that expectation in good faith, investing time and resources accordingly. It would be inequitable for them to now deny that conduct and enforce restrictive terms that were never previously applied.
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