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- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:41:48 +0100
- From: Christian Horn <chorn@example.com>
- Subject: [tlug] [slightly OT] SMTP and the internet, protocols and the internet
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Hoi tlug, please allow me to be a bit offtopic, but not to much. Like some other people on this list, I run services on the internet: a web-, a mail server and more. I have domain fluxcoil.net from the .net servers delegated to me, so I host the domain myself, can create subdomains and so on. Some weeks ago I sent new years greetings to some friends, 3 also with mail addresses @t-online.de . My postfix was not able to deliver, these mails were refused with: [..] 554 IP=45.136.30.123 - A problem occurred. (Ask your postmaster for help or to contact tosa@example.com to clarify.) (BL) So I contacted tosa@example.com, and was pointed at https://postmaster.t-online.de/index.en.html . I was asked to comply with these rules to get mails from my domain accepted, and was first hinted at chapter 4.1: | In particular, we recommend choosing a host name that | indicates its usage as a mail server (eg. mail.example.com) | and >>> to ensure the host's domain leads to a website | providing full contact details. <<< Regarding that: I deliver mails from fluxcoil.net directly, and do not intent to change that. _If_ I was to change that, for example to mail.fluxcoil.net, what then if google decides that only mails from foobar.<domain> are acceptable? Such rules should be decided with the internet community, and find their way into RFC, to be acceptable. 2 mails back and forth, it was pointed out that I could also provide my full name and address on my webserver. I have actually name and multiple ways to reach me there - but I would not want to provide my address there. My full address was since ~2005 visible in whois for my domain, but recent changes of the whois organizations have changed things. So this is where I am. I think these are rules artificially setup by the mail provider, to make spam fighting easier for them, but rising bars for accepting mails from domains like mine. Everybody on the internet is free to choose whom to accept mails from, or I could decide not to have my webserver talk to some IPs. I think there is no higher instance watching there, the only way to fix this would be to illustrate the issue to enough people, and maybe the provider rethinking this arbitrary rules. I talked with some peers who know much more about these things, but without a good way forward. What do you think, how would you react? Have you hit similar situations? Chris PS: slightly OT, as it's more about how to be a good citizen on the internet. But it's also about how to run MTA services on the internet with Linux, that is on topic.
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