Re: [tlug] Introduction to (Tech) Worker Cooperatives, 09:00AM on Sunday, July 12th JST

[Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@example.com>]

> There seem to be enough people who think that the current system
> which tries to "restrict capitalism" to be a bit more society- and
> environment friendly will never work out, and would try to do
> other approaches.

Yes, I have recently met economists who very clearly state that Capitalism is not reformable.  One person even told me there isn't a single theory she can think of that would make it work. 😄

I think it is akin to say one cannot substitute proprietary software for free software - there's a reason why free software exists. Just like the economist I was having a conversation with, the free software people will probably tell you that proprietary software just won't survive in the long run.

So I think worker coops are on the right side of history and in practice, we will have a long period of transition. (Something like Coronavirus may make this quicker)

I imagine, in the end, there will be a substantial social, non-capitalist economy co-existing and the oligarchs of capitalism will stay richer than ever, at least on paper.

I the future, I suspect that series of political reforms will the push the super rich and the like fleeing constantly to tax havens and "business friendly" regimes and their paper wealth will start to look shaky.   At some point, a realization will set in that their paper wealth cannot be effectively realized in much of the democratic countries anymore.

Checkmate 😄



> On Jul 18, 2020, at 09:07, Christian Horn <chorn@example.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 06:53:45AM +0900, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
>> 
>> We can become the ideal "atomic worker" not having anything to do
>> with the society as dreamed up by Capitalists, because we do that
>> in the worker coop world, not in the Capitalist lala-land 😄
> 
> There seem to be enough people who think that the current system
> which tries to "restrict capitalism" to be a bit more society- and
> environment friendly will never work out, and would try to do
> other approaches.
> To bad that founding new countries to live in and do that is hard.
> 
> 
>> Some links:
>> https://github.com/hng/tech-coops
>> [..]
> 
> Premium cola from Germany was also not yet called out.
> Started by a guy, who found that his beloved cola is no longer avai-
> lable.  Now this is a collective, deciding together, and having the
> costs, earnings and so on in the company public to the last cent.
> 
> Chris
> 
>