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- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:10:19 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull.stephen.fw@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] VPN?
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David J Iannucci writes: > If this is true, you have to think that the whole industry is just > a big scam. You get an A+! I note that McAfee[1] got pissed on Twitter the other day because he hasn't been associated with the McAfee Antivirus scam^Wproduct for a decade. (Yes, he admitted it sucks.) > Most security advice I have seen on the web, some of it from what > look like very trustworthy sources, says "use a VPN for enhanced > privacy and anonymity". Is this all just a big conspiracy? No. It's a decentralized application of "Barnum's Dictum" ("there's a sucker born every minute"). I still don't have a very good idea of what your needs are, so I'm not willing to say a VPN is useful or no. But consider this: Anybody (who isn't an expensive consultant, and some of them too) who claims to be selling security, privacy, or anonymity is a scammer. The tools that ordinary people need to make themselves reasonably secure and private against outside attack on their network connections and hosts are commodities and free to cheap in price.[2] But the user needs to make some behavioral changes[3], and high-quality anonymity is very hard. But this amount of security is mostly a misreading of reality, as most of the interesting things you do on networks involve human counterparties, who by and large are not as good at security as you are (this is the "Lake Wobegon Lemma"[4], which underpins most proofs of nonexistence of security). And you have to be very good to maintain security, privacy, and anonymity against somebody with skills bearing ill-will against you. The rule is that to say whether a tool enhances your security (etc) requires (1) knowing your requirements in those areas, and (2) knowing the threats to those conditions that you face. Neither of these is a commodity that can be sold via an e-commerce site. Footnotes: [1] That is one weird arrogant dude. Makes Musk + Zuckerberg look like a kindergarten duet all by his lonesome. [2] And in your case, a VPN may be one of them. But see [3]. [3] E.g., putting up with the annoyance of 2FA, avoiding installing any software that is not mission-related, and learning the skill of using a password manager. Oh, and as David mentioned, background checks on your VPN provider if you're worried about government agencies (ie, subpoenas) and hackers of moderate skill. ;-) [4] Prairie Home Companion described Lake Wobegon as a town where "all the children are above average".
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