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- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:49:57 +0900
- From: Kalin KOZHUHAROV <me.kalin@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] perl? (was: Employment for "oldies")
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Just my two $yen ;-) I started learning Perl many years ago (17?), learning "How to make dynamic web sites", LoL It sat on top of BASIC, Pascal (Turbo/Borland), C, VisualBasic, Java, ... It gave me the power to make those machines work for me and do what I need to crunch any data, it was something great of a feeling. Somewhere deep in the back of my mind, in var without references, I remember having written a love letter in Perl... And "Learning Perl" is still one of the best programming books out there. These days I write mostly Perl "one-liners", sometimes slightly longer systems, often interspersed with Makefiles, gnuplot and of course bash scripts. While the big Unicode mess, not exactly Perl's fault, made me learn and fix a few (public) packages, my skills have only improved and my code still runs after those years. I often read python (Gentoo and some forensics packages), C (mostly embedded stuff or some borked lib under debug) and occasional Ruby hmm "gem". I often curse python devs for breaking compatibility (sometimes have to deal with archaic code-base) and Ruby - looks like I am slightly allergic to it, so I try to stay away (I mean not like Windoze or Skype). I think that computer languages are very close to human ones, except that there are many humans with zero-(computer)languages, but almost everybody has (at least one) mother-tongue, so the usual off-by-one programming error is here as well. If one is born in a small country, with a "specific" language, s/he has the choice or sometimes necessity to learn other languages; this is hard, often invigorating, life-changing or life-threatening experience. If one is born in a "big" country, often-times there is no real _need_ to try to learn foreign languages; so often such experience is lacking. If someone claiming to be "IT", comes to me and cannot just sit down and program in anything (Excel comes to mind, still something!) - its like being illiterate, no matter how well s/he can click on icons or make presentations, or even solve people's problems. If someone claiming to be a "dev" comes to me and cannot use at least two different (say C and Perl) programming languages, clearly stating what/why is one better than the other - it is like someone who has seen only one side of the coin. Many years ago I was kind of "forced" to have a phone interview with some Micro$oft recruiter... I was trying to be polite, explaining that I don't think this job is for me, I just feel some stress that I know I can avoid. But it looked he was offended, most probably because it was a well paid job, twice my salary at the time (and he knew that), so he kept on trying to persuade me. Yes a really funny situation! Somehow we got to examples with food and he asked: "So are you trying to say that the Chinese food is worse than the French food?" "Nope", I replied, "but people who like Chinese food go to a Chinese restaurant, those who like French - go to a French restaurant and there are many who do both. But those who hate one or the other, do NOT go to that restaurant, that simple. Now why are you thinking you can persuade me to work for you?". So, focus on, like and love and spread the language(s) you like and try to minimise the negative emotions (there are many "restaurants", remember?). If you do what you like, chances are you'll stay busy enough to be away from what you don't. Cheers, Kalin.
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