Re: [tlug] Up against the wall! [was: Running without Gnome...]

[Josh Glover <jmglov@example.com>]

On 29 April 2016 at 08:13, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@example.com> wrote:

> Curt Sampson writes:
>
>  > This is why all the project managers will be first against the wall
>  > when the revolution comes.
>
> It turns out that "project manager" is a necessary role [...]

I wonder if software projects are fundamentally different than other
sorts of projects. I've had a lot of success with the style of working
Curt is describing; namely, treating the software as a product with
users, and building it in small increments of functionality which the
*product* owner orders up and prioritises.

We can't get away from "projects" when doing things like building new
datacentres or migrating to a new cloud provider or whatever, but I
don't see much software being developed in the project style in the
places where I work.

I suspect that some of the posters in this thread are tarring the
entire field of software development with the same brush, when there
is extraordinary variation in the approaches to development, and the
type of software being built. Systems integration is really not
indicative of software development as a whole; in fact, I suspect that
systems integration may be another of those things for which the
"project" approach is unavoidable. I'd love to be wrong, though!

Cheers,
Josh